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paltsi
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:30 am     Reply with quote
Can a colour blind person become a good graphic artist? Is here any? Tell me what you think.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:47 am     Reply with quote
i suppose they could. i dont see y not
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:04 pm     Reply with quote
i'm colorblind. everything i do ends up being brown or greenish grey. don't know why, because those are the colors/shades/hues/whatever i have the most trouble with. most of my problems occur with having to recognise hues, values or saturation pose no problems. except with low saturation greens/browns/reds. darker shades are also difficult for me to tell apart.

this all means everything i do ends up looking really bland.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:39 pm     Reply with quote
Paltsi,
Although, I'm not colour blind, I know, that being a Graphic Artist involves more that just painting. (Although that helps) Graphic design involves communicating concepts and Ideas, not to mention doing layout, design and most importantly creative thinking. So I say sure, if you want to, go ahead. It'll be a minor setback, but Beethoven still composed when he was deaf, so why not paint, even if you can't distinguish between certain hues?
God Bless
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B3AND1P
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 7:04 pm     Reply with quote
JFreak is right, the most important part of graphic design is comunicating a feeling or a thought with graphics. Sometimes color can help this. but it isn't everything Maybe you can compensate by upping the saturation of everything when you are done? you can also just show it to someone else when you are done and let them know what you want the colors to be. The fact is determination and passion will get you much farther than being able to tell colors apart easily.
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Tom Luth
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:24 pm     Reply with quote
Peter Milton and Robert Fawcet are two color blind artists. Milton moved from painting to etching upon discovering this, working in B/W. Fawcett worked in color, but focussing in a range of colors he could handle.

I'm sure you're familiar with the art school project of painting with just two complementary colors, such as red/green or orange/blue? Perhaps working in one that you can see may be an option? (Don't know for sure, not being color blind.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:04 am     Reply with quote
There are several ppl here at the forums who are colourblind, and they do some great work.

As long as you can see values, then you are practically done, because values are far more important than colour. in Order of importance 'drawing > values > colours'.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:56 am     Reply with quote
I'm slightly Daltonic (red/green colorblind) as are most men. So far, so good... but I've got a long way to go with fundamentals to know if I'll be any good >8)

I agree with JFreak... it's the ideas & feelings you're trying to express, not the medium. If you could only see in black & white, you could still make beautiful art, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 10:40 am     Reply with quote
I've worked with a couple of color blind artists in the past and you'd never really know it. From time to time, they need to check to make sure that they're using a flesh color instead of green. They're also easy to beat in Super Puzzle Fighter. Hehe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 10:51 am     Reply with quote
One of my college professors, Ralph Gilbert, is color blind. Here's his work:
http://www.gsu.edu/~wwwart/gilbert/index.htm

You'd never know he was...
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gArGOyLe^
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 2:36 pm     Reply with quote
I have a blue/purple problem.. its weird.. sometimes I pass at the color blindness tests and sometimes I fail..

maybe i'm color blind in one eye only..

I dont know...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:25 pm     Reply with quote
Albert Uderzo is color blind, and he draws Asterix the Gaul, although he doesn't color it.
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Asurfael
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 12:21 am     Reply with quote
i've seen a lot of good work from colour blind artists... but i must disagree on the beethoven thing. Sure he was deaf in the end, but he had had good hearing when he was younger, and when you get involved enough in music you can actually hear the music just by looking at the notes (well some people can anyhow). meaning, he could compose because he had had his hearing. whilst colour blindness is most often a state you've had for as long as you can remember. I think you could compare this to a person who first sees colour, then starts to see in monotone. i think the person could be able to remember which part of the spectrum in a familiar program is which colour, and could get it at least half right

this has nothing to do with the actual discussion, as i don't know a lot about colour blindness. as i said, i've seen some good work, especially from kana (although i did notice her problem with green, but if she hadn't said she was colourblind in her post i would've thought it was an effect she was trying to archieve).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 2:34 pm     Reply with quote
Good call. My analogy was quite flawed, but it did seem to get the point across.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2002 5:57 am     Reply with quote
if you read comics ... john byrne is color blind and what he does is he actaully writes the colors on the side of colored markers that he uses. A friend of mine who is also color blind does the same using whatever media he uses. Say for instance he is painting with acrylics ... he will us a piece of clear glass or plexi glass and underneath it will tape where he will put colors ... then he just paints away. You would never know he was color blind at all. I've seen him work and i still don't get how he mixes paints ... but he does it just fine.
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