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Danny
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 8:06 am     Reply with quote
or a more appropriate subject would be 'Burning your bridges'

Read the bottom e-mail first and work your way up chronologically..

What was this guy thinking...

[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
>Paul
> > McLaughlin
> > Sent: 12 April 2002 10:56
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: Andy Bass
> > Subject: FW: Artist Seeking Work
> >
> > If anyone knows, meets, sees or hears of this twat please say hello from
> > me and ask him if he's still 'living the dream'.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnny Wood [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: 12 April 2002 01:47
> > To: Paul McLaughlin
> > Subject: RE: Artist Seeking Work
> >
> > Puff...
> > Yes ... I said PUFF !
> > You big bag of fucking gay. Why fucking advertise if you know there are
>no
> > fucking jobs other than for the YTS retards that they call students. How
> > long before you realise that the cunts who pay your wages are NOT the
> > people who sponsor the EDGE. They are the cunts who do the work, live
>the
> > dream and do the work
> > BTW. I did a search on the web for your name. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
>EXACTLY
> > ?
> > Tosser Cuntface. That's you.
> > Yes it is.

> > Paul McLaughlin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello Johnny,
> > Thanks for contacting Lionhead,
> > However I'm sorry to say we won't be proceeding further with your
> > application in the short term. I've seen the work of many candidates and
> > while nearly all have been very good indeed there have been a small
>number
> > that would obviously fit our requirements almost perfectly. It really
> > comes down to an apparently "ideal" combination of talent, skillset,
> > experience and personality. These people have therefore formed the
> > short-list that we are focussing on at the moment. Should this list grow
> > to encompass yourself or should our requirements change in the short
>term
> > then I'll be sure to get back to you. However for the moment we
> > unfortunately will have to put your application on hold.
> > Please excuse my candour, I hope you will appreciate our situation. By
>all
> > means feel free to keep in touch however in case the situation changes
>in
> > the future.
> > Sincerely,
> > Paul Mc
> > Paul McLaughlin
> > Head Of Art
> > Lionhead Studios
> > http://www.lionhead.com

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnny Wood [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: 07 March 2002 14:50
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Artist Seeking Work
> >
> > Hi,
> > My name is Johnny Wood, I am interested in applying for the position
> > of Artist or Animator.
> >
> > If you open this link into your web browser, you will be prompted to
> > download my CV and Samples. In the samples, open clickme.htm to run a
>HTML
> > demo.
> >
> > The link is case sensitive, so it's best to cut and paste it into
> > your browsers bar if clicking it below doesn't work
> >
> > <http://www.geocities.com/anarchy_pants_man/JwoodCV.zip>
> > Yours Sincerely, Johnny Wood
> >

[ April 16, 2002: Message edited by: Danny ]
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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 8:23 am     Reply with quote
So.. he got the job, right?

Heh, too funny. I can't imagine why anybody would get that upset over a simple application. That e-mail exchange reminds me of a short one that my company was sent in response to an ad we sent out for artists. He basically said: "I noticed your ad about needing an artist. I am an artist for hire but I don't do characters or environments. Please contact me." Made us wonder just what he would do for a game company.

On another note, does this mean that you're somehow involved with Lionhead Studios? Just curious, I've been following Project Ego for some time now. I'm personally hoping that it turns out to be a stellar game.

-Flinthawk

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 9:01 am     Reply with quote
lol

Ah...how I miss working in the gaming industry.

Tell him he's on Candid Camera, Danny. ;-)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:03 am     Reply with quote
OMG. He's so obviously one of those people who would take an assault rifle to work if his boss pissed him off. . ..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:15 am     Reply with quote
Danny: you'll just have to look elsewhere for work.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:58 pm     Reply with quote
"You big bag of fucking gay"
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Basement bound
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 9:01 pm     Reply with quote
Dude has some issues!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 9:09 pm     Reply with quote
The guy flipping out doesn't surprise me.. what surprises me is a company representative ACTUALLY REPLYING to an application! Now THAT is shocking in this day and age


...ok so I'm just bitter about those 20 applications and the 2 no thank yous and 1 we'll get back to you's i got from 2 years go.. i've moved on
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:25 pm     Reply with quote
how did you get ahold of these emails?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:19 pm     Reply with quote
hehe good one sumaleth ...bff..muahaha
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:32 pm     Reply with quote
We got that mail forwarded to us yesterday, I believe its spreading around the games industry mail networks like wildfire, most amusing retort not exactly professional tho. It was a touch naive to send a mail like that when he has been in the games industry for quite a while to not expect other potential employers to hear about it. This guy has pretty much trashed his chances of getting a job anywhere in the industry meantime I'd say ( bit of an attitude problem methinks ). It's a shame because his pixel work is actually very good.
What I'm wondering is if he spent a while considering what he was gonna type or was sent into an immediate rage, typed random words out angrily, and then sent the mail before thinking? :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:33 pm     Reply with quote
I stands on the thin line of being a complete joke or the words of a complete idiot.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:42 pm     Reply with quote
Wow - does anyone know this guy, we have a position available, and he sounds perfect
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:23 am     Reply with quote
Flinthawk: no, I'm not working for Lion Head. I left the games industry behind a long time ago..

Sumaleth; Give heed to your own advice ye of unemployed status..

the_monkey: These things have a mysterious way of finding themselves in your mailbox all of the sudden. I don't know any of the people involved. Thought it might be of interest to some here.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:28 am     Reply with quote
Danny, that picture you made of a hot chick standing on cornfield over a year ago is still vidid in my mind. So does your Lara Cloft pic! Please, draw something soon or i'll die!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 3:45 am     Reply with quote
Dr Bang.. I haven't really been doing much painting outside of work, so I haven't got much to contribute. If you want to see what we here at FrameStore-CFC have been up to (amongst other projects) be sure to watch the DinoTopia mini series to be aired on the 12th of may in the US and Canada. It's 3 made for TV movies. Be sure to watch it...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 3:26 pm     Reply with quote
Geez..
Guy sounds like he's 15 years old.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 1:58 am     Reply with quote
Of course this guy is dumb. But at the same time it is really obnoxious how companies put up permanent job openings on their site when they don't actually have an opening just so it looks like they are the "rapidly expanding team of talented game developers" that they claim to be. It's all show and insiders know that but if you are just a newbie you will not and it can be very frustrating.
Who knows.. maybe this guy has been trying for a long time and keeps on getting this.
I've seen it happen.
Looking for a job can emotionally be very draining and people just wasting your time like that can make you snap. It's just smarter to yell at someone else or an inanimate object for that matter.
hehe
But as pathetic as this guy might be I think it is a bit immature to show this to all your buddies and destroy his career for good over one email.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:17 am     Reply with quote
edraket... being in my sixth decade on this planet and having made my share of mistakes and stooopid moves, I have to agree with you. If the internet had been around when I was but a wee lad, I'm sure I would have stuck my virtual foot in my virtual mouth on occasion. ...but OTHOH, maybe I'd be a lot farther along today... Who knows.

I was never quite as krass as Mr. Johnny Wood, but then I grew up with Howdy Doody and Kukla Fran and Olie, not the Cartoon Channel... The Cartoon Channel in the fifties... now that would have been outstanding!

However.... I do think it is a bit unfair to publish publicly what was intended to be a private communication.

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