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Topic : "A theory on 'Life' - Food for Thought" |
Dthind member
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2001 8:13 pm |
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So I have this theory�
by the way, agree or disagree, it is just a thought, nothing to get all up in arms about or call the pope.
You should be rather open minded to grasp this, if you are weighed down in religious dogma, please hit the back button on the browser and move somewhere else, this is not for you.
The theory:
So, before you are born (or come into this world) you are given 100 credits. At this time in your existence you are a creature of pure energy, without preconceptions or biases in anyway shape or form. You are objective. Your goal is to create a scenario to learn something VERY, VERY specific about the world of the living (that you are about to join).
In order to pass into the world of the living (Earth, what you know now), you must spend all 100 credits to build much of life (and many, but not all of the attributes that allow you to strive to learn that one lesson you came here for).
You must spend these credits on things like (but NOT limited to, as there are no real limitations in this pre-earth world)
Very small sample of attributes that can be �purchased�
1) Physical appearance (sex, size, shape, color, etc)
2) Monetary success in your physical world (wealth, poor, middle of the road, etc)
3) Situation (oppressed, oppressor, alone etc)
4) Skills (art, knowledge, memory, numbers, etc)
5) Prevention (propensity for sickness, accidents, paralyzation, etc)
6) Location (the cold north, the hot equator, city, country, etc)
7) Persuasion (loathed by all, get along with others, likeability, public speaking, etc)
8) Self Worth (how you see yourself, your integrity, self esteem, etc)
9) Survivability (ability to cope with change)
10) Stability (emotional, physical, etc)
The list is a sample of the unlimited things you can use your credits on.
NOW, for the hard part. You can only use 100 credits; you must use all 100 credits. Everything has a relative price to the other things you �purchase�.
As you are a totally objective being and your goal is to create a scenario that causes an end effect of some sort (i.e. a single specific lesson to be learned).
This effect is only known by the creature PRIOR to being �born� and the result (or success) is only known after death. The question is what do you use your credits on?
It is easy to say (in the physical / biased life) that you would spend them on x or y. But in the objective life, with a specific goal (or lesson) in mind, the choices would be different.
Now for the odd part. Every item you choose with your credits has �an equal and opposite� effect (I call this the law of compensating factors). As an example, if you choose to be very wealthy, you may get an undesired effect of a short life or susceptibility to corruption from others. The possibilities are endless.
To the Point:
Go back in your life and try to determine what you spent your credits on, and what effects your were given as compensating factors.
If you are successful you get to choose another scenario and �purchase� new attributes, keep the same, or �play again� (hence the term D�j� vu). If you are not successful, you will probably choose to play again (hence the term D�j� vu), or you may choose to attempt something different.
By the way, this is just a theory I like to think about.
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A.Buttle member
Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 1724
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2001 8:16 pm |
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So what you're saying is that life is like a role-playing game? Is it more like GURPS or more like AD&D? With the new 3rd edition rule set?
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sahripper member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2000 Posts: 69 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2001 8:28 pm |
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I must say I am not religious, but that was the one of the craziest things I have heard. By any chance did you go to my insane thread, you might be pretty high up there... Anyway, just kidding... |
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Dthind member
Member # Joined: 12 Dec 2000 Posts: 436
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2001 9:02 pm |
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quote: Originally posted by A.Buttle:
So what you're saying is that life is like a role-playing game? Is it more like GURPS or more like AD&D? With the new 3rd edition rule set?
Oddly enough I created an entire game world around this theory (i.e a cross between AD&D and GURPS). With pages of charts to purchase attributes with various levels of effects that come with them for the characters. We have been playing this version for many years and it has been quite fun.
My AD&D world goes back to the original version (boxed set) with the B1 / B2 adventures (to date myself that is).
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Nex member
Member # Joined: 25 Mar 2000 Posts: 2086 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 1:11 am |
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The world has no sense of fairness. There is no judge somewhere up there that donates equal ammounts of points to everyone.
If you look closely there are those 1000 credit people out there and there are -10 credit people out there too.
The thought that we all have equal chances or attributes to start with is a nice one, but its not reality. |
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PandaX52 member
Member # Joined: 10 Feb 2001 Posts: 603 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 1:28 am |
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you can't put reality into a container of "credits" that's just a byproduct of your logical leftside working overtime...
like nex said, everyone wouldn't have the same amount of "credits" some people are just lucky and others unlucky...it's all random...
I shouldn't have even read this post, I'm already confused as of how to interpret reality as it is...
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Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 1854 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 7:34 am |
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If you don't know what the countereffects of the features you select are, it all becomes a game of chance, doesn't it?
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Spitfire member
Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 2009 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 8:04 am |
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The numerical concept of credits, as things like success, skills and character, are all spawned by our biological brains and therefore moot. The theory makes no sense.
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Dthind member
Member # Joined: 12 Dec 2000 Posts: 436
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 9:02 am |
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Sahripper: Yea...well..maybe
Nex: Maybe, or maybe not, the world is not so fair now. The theory does not allow individuals to have more or less credit then others. Everyone has the same options and opertunites to begin with. Their physical life is determined by their choices prior to coming into the world. We all do have equal chances, Before We come into the world, based on our choices. Like I said just a theory.
PandaX52: Please dont take this wrong, but I can put reality into anything I want to. It is Not random, we choose what we want to. It is important to remember that the choices made are done solely to learn a single lesson, and will never make sense to us until we leave this world. This is kind of similar to the human inability to understand the kingdom of god until we are there (I am not religious, but I have done the church thing enough to rememer that). ps. I dont understand a lot of the current viiew of reality now, so I am no better or worse with this theory.
Affected: You dont know the counter effects now, you might know them before coming into this world (based on this 'theory'). Who is to say. Like I said, food for thought. On a side note 'Democracy is a lie' So is socialism, communisim, totalitarism, repulicism and the rest of the forms of rule. Eventually everything corrupts into a lie to some form of another.
Spitfire: The theory makes no sense to you (and anyone else that chooses this reaction). It doesnt always work for me either. I am not real sure about not using my biological brain, because without a biological brain my head would literally be empty and my body would not function. Dont get me wrong, I am not living my life based on this, it was just something that I thought about, and later converted into a dungeons and dragons game world, thats it.
Hence the forum: Random Musings.....
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Crix junior member
Member # Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 9:40 am |
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I�ve thought about a similar theory myself some time ago and I like imagining such stuff.
But those theories are always influenced by factors our life is based on (capitalism -> credits).
It is quite a challenge to try to break these "limited" ideas.
Always like to read theories like this one! thanks, Dthind ! |
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travis travis member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2001 Posts: 437 Location: CT, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 4:29 pm |
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Interesting thoughts. Basically like a lot of other spiritual theory of karma and the like... but I think your use of the word 'credits' and needlessly applying some kind of purchase plan makes most people look right past what you're saying. It could be said easier by just saying you set up a life with some conditions that will help you learn.
Panda: don't get the everything is random comment. if everything was random it would all be static. nothing would exist, nothing could be stable, nothing could grow. |
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Dthind member
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2001 5:28 pm |
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quote: Originally posted by travis travis:
Interesting thoughts. Basically like a lot of other spiritual theory of karma and the like... but I think your use of the word 'credits' and needlessly applying some kind of purchase plan makes most people look right past what you're saying. It could be said easier by just saying you set up a life with some conditions that will help you learn.
Panda: don't get the everything is random comment. if everything was random it would all be static. nothing would exist, nothing could be stable, nothing could grow.
Point taken. I should not say credits, I should say something like options with compensating factors...thx
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Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 1854 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2001 5:42 am |
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Dthind: true, but it's a lie WE live. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2001 6:09 am |
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I like the theory.... and you people shouldn't think so much about the word "credit". there has to be some room for some own thoughts.
I like the idea....but there are so many theory's that can make sence in a way like this.
But I like it....
(if it was soo, I should probably used some more "credits" on the place I live, instead of my look...) |
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