[Liser Studios]

hey
for my website (both for a flash intro and for a background of the actual page)i want to make a map. mainly one of those old looking ones.
if you don't know what i mean, the first example i could find was http://jdillon.net/besm1.jpg i'm sure i could look around and find more, but you get the idea. (sorry julie, i just already knew you had drawn one before)
anyways, what i'm asking is....
how the heck would i do this? i mean, that texture looks like it might be hard to make, unless i can do something with some filters... i was thinking maybe a grain and then a motion blur, but it might end up looking like wood.
so yeah, how do i get that old paper look?
btw, if anyone knows where i could find any other references for something like this, i would greatly appreciate it.
thanks in advance

[Dr. Bang]

if you have a digital camera, just take a picture of the ground and overlay it over the map. Just keep doing the same thing repeatedly with a different ground picture and you'll get a nice effect.

[vurx]

i just found a map randomly on images.google.com. the texture was made by putting coffee grounds on a piece of 8.5x11 printer paper and wetting it down pretty good. i let the water seep into and down the paper and i wiped the grounds off. let the paper dry and scan it in. play around with levels and what not. i already had this texture in my library, just thought id share how to make your own.

i started this thread here but its not getting much attention...

hope this helps.
--vurx

[Dr. Bang]

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Originally posted by vurx:


i just found a map randomly on images.google.com. the texture was made by putting coffee grounds on a piece of 8.5x11 printer paper and wetting it down pretty good. i let the water seep into and down the paper and i wiped the grounds off. let the paper dry and scan it in. play around with levels and what not. i already had this texture in my library, just thought id share how to make your own.

i started this thread here but its not getting much attention...

hope this helps.
--vurx

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Hhaha, thats a map of a part of my country!! HAHAHAH I feel so specail .

[Liser Studios]

hey

Dr Bang> i'd try what you said, but i don't have a digi cam i could always run an extension outside and scan the ground that way! lol j/k

vurx> this would be the easiest for me to try.. which i'm definately gonna do.


thanks a lot duuudes!

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[jabber]

k, awhile ago i wanted to make something similar, but the process i used is a bit odd, cause i was just guessing most of the time.

i took several pieces of paper, (regular typing paper) and places them in a square flat baking pan that i had put some water and 2 old tea bags in. so the water was kinda brown, like tea . anyways, i soaked these sheets in there for the better part of the day and went back to them every now and then to crumple them, and put folds in them. soak some more.

then, pulled them out, layed out on the ground and put some rocks on them to hold them down. i think i also sprinkled some dirt on them, and a little rub as well. when they dried, they had a wonderfull old paper feel and look to them.

i also put some tears on the edges, and used my lighter to burn one of them a little.

next, i selected my favorite one, scanned it, did some color adjustments to get a stronger brown in them, (they look a bit more yellow in the digital world) and have been using these scans for several projects, including background images for my site.

this link is a bit of an example.old paper background

[Midget Clown Overlord]

There are plenty of ground textures here

http://art.net/~jeremy/photo/public_texture/index.html

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[Moro]

Something like this?


it's all Photoshop. Use dodge, burn, and the texture filter that comes with the program on a shape colored a dark tan/beige. lots of tweaking and cool fonts help.

[Liser Studios]

i just scanned in a piece of paper that i rubbed in the dirt and set it to multipy, and the other to color burn (then used hue/saturation to make it brown, since it was reddish)

Moro> yeah, that's really nice too... i might do that instead. we'll see, we'll see.

edit> btw, i didn't draw the actual map here. it's from Lord of the Rings

so... what seems to be the best way to go about doing this? i dunno which ones the best and most convincing :-\

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[Midget Clown Overlord]

Here's one I did in photoshop. Its just about 2 or 3 grunge images I got from the site I posted above. I just played with the layers in ps to get the desired effect. I also used the burn tool around the edges.


If you want it to be realistic then you got to think about how it will get dirty and worn. I would of put some folds in the paper if I could get the texture or took the time to scan it in. Think about stains and dirt. Make some parts faded and what not.

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[Liser Studios]

hmmmm... that one is pretty nice too. you did that all with ground images too... pretty nifty. i might try that out too.
lots of choices here, i guess.

[Midget Clown Overlord]

Well it wasnt exactley ground textures. They were pictures of concrete and I found on of a coffee stain. I desaturated them and played with the levels a bit.

Here's a link to the before image. http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/EART/maps/tibet.gif

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