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The Magic Pen member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:11 pm |
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Recently I had the intense pleasure of coming across William Bouguereau . His works are unlike any other with his energy and his ability to capture the very soul of his subjects. I found it incrediable that he was an unknown for so long in the 20th centuary. I think that if I could spend one day with an old master it would be him. I would love to go back in time and meet someone with such an understanding of art and painting .
Who would you choose if you could only choose 1?
William Bouguereau
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Liser Studios member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:19 pm |
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actually, i've pondered this very question myself.
in fact, when i'm sitting at home drawing, I often think "what would da vinci say if he was standing over my shoulder? what would he tell me is wrong with it?" it helps me out sometimes, lol.
But yeah, I'd like to meet Da Vinci (if the language barrier could be broken somehow)... I've thought about how much I would improve if he would be my teacher for a year. Man, I'd love that so much.
lol, but if Da Vinci looked at my art, he'd laugh.
and yeah, Bouguereau is really really good. I'd say as good as Da Vinci or any other master... yet his name isn't as popular as the others. You know why? Not because he isn't as good of an artist; but because his name is so hard to pronounce! How exactly do you say Bouguereau?! I just say boig-er-ree-u i'm probably way off though |
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xXxPZxXx member
Member # Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Location: MN
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:19 pm |
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Da Vinci for sure no doubt about it. After reading "How to think like Leonardo Da Vinci" I am convinced that although he has so few paintings to gauge his work on he obviously had amazing talent, and would be one of the most interesting people to converse with. His unbelievable amount of notes and sketches hold such an immeasureable amount of knowledge (especially for that time) Everything about the way he lived his life intrigues me and I do believe he may be one of the most well-rounded people to have ever walked the earth.
so yeah
-PZ-
(oh and not exactly a master but I would also like to have a little chit chat with Dali. See what he is actually like and if everything he did was just an image. I can see him being an intriguing person though.)
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Dr. Bang member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2001 Posts: 1425 Location: DENHAAG, HOLLAND
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:33 pm |
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Leonardo Da Vinci is also a inventor, take a look at some of his old drawings, why? Cause he draws HELICOPTERS! |
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liv the fish member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 83 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:43 pm |
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Liser: its Boo-grow (don't forget to roll your "R"). aren't you glad you finally know I agree, a really, really underrated master.
Hmm...I've always enjoyed the pure skill of all of the Renaissance artists and the pure beauty and heart of the Romantics.
I guess I'd have to have a conference to talk to all the ones I like
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Ben Barker member
Member # Joined: 15 Sep 2000 Posts: 568 Location: Cincinnati, Ohier
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:00 pm |
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Caravaggio, even though he would probably hold me down and have one of the Medicis slit my throat. |
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Ahcri member
Member # Joined: 23 Dec 2000 Posts: 559 Location: Victoria, B.C.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:04 pm |
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How old does he have to be? I have two choices, one has been dead for a long time and one has been dead only for a while. The first one is Hieronymous Bosch, he is a painter during the Renaissance, and a lot of his paintings are inspired by dreams and myth, and his works has influenced the surrealist movement in the 20th century. If you have never heard of him, I recommend you check out his works HERE. The other one is Andy Warhol, I just thought it would be really cool to hang out and have some tomato soup with him. ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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xXxPZxXx member
Member # Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Location: MN
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:11 pm |
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Dr. Ban: another one of my favorite little known facts on Da Vinci is the fact that he had drawings and specifications for a working parachute in his sketches. So an invention made to safely fall to the ground from an airplane, before any air travel. Definitely was a genius.
Ben: do you have any links to Caravaggio artwork or history? |
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Briareos member
Member # Joined: 24 May 2001 Posts: 392 Location: CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:14 pm |
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Ben Barker member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:38 pm |
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xXxPZxXx, http://www.artrenewal.org/museum/c/Caravaggio_Michelangelo_Merisi_da/page1.html
His most famous are probably the Medusa head, Boy with a Basket of Fruit, and Amor Victorious. Most of his works are overtly homosexual, which gave him some problems. But he was a genius, and a fantastic painter even in his early 20s. He was also pretty much a gangster. He was in and out of jail (either escaping or beating the rap) his whole life, occasionaly for murder. Definitely one of the more interesting artists of the time period. |
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Anthony member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:50 pm |
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Leonardo, no question. He's my favorite artist anyway. |
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mza member
Member # Joined: 25 Oct 2001 Posts: 74 Location: Calif.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:09 pm |
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John Singer Sargent. I wish I could see him give a painting demo. |
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Jason Manley member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:14 pm |
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bouguereau...just to see him paint....
degas for the conversation and perspective on art...
j |
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jome member
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Sedone member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 2:31 am |
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This is a tough question. If I really had to choose, I'd say Alphonse Mucha. |
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[Shizo] member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 4:48 am |
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I will say Adolf Hitler. His paintings were nice! |
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horstenpeter member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Posts: 255 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 5:14 am |
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Yeah Hitler was quite a good painter. He's first on my list
Second would be Joseph Beuys, he wasn't too much of a painter though, he was more of an event artist. But I really like his philosophy and his political views (for example, he was a teacher at a German art school and he was of the opinion that everyone should be allowed to learn about art and not only those that showed a good portfolio. So he allowed everyone into his classes and taught everyone. He went as far as occupying (as in, being there without permission) the art school with pupils whose portfolios had been rejected and taught them until he finally was expelled from the school. (He later was allowed to teach again after becoming very famous and respected). |
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Lunatique member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 5:25 am |
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I would love to chat with Waterhouse, as there's so little known about him. I mean, he's one of the most mysterious artists in the 19th century. Whenever somone tries to write a monograph on him, they have trouble finding out much about his personal life, or uncover records of personal letters and articles..etc.
And of course, he's on my top three list of all time favs.
I love Sargent too, but regarding painting he could be a real tight @ss, in a dictorial kind of way. I would like to hear him play the piano though. His chops were pretty damn good!
My other favorite is still alive(Richard schmid), and he published a book on his teachings, so if I were to meet him, it would just to have a couple of drinks and tell each other jokes. ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Ahcri member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 8:14 am |
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horstenpeter: I would like to meet Beuys too, except I probably will have problem understand his ideas. ![](images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
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Gort member
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jr member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 8:51 am |
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first off, speaking of sargent, molly, did dice ever talk about max ginsburg to you? that guy could paint up a storm.
if i could meet an old master rembrandt, i read he was a total ass but i like thems paintin' |
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Awetopsy member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 9:27 am |
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I dunno.. I think michealangelo.. after the sistene chapel. ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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isthmus nekoi junior member
Member # Joined: 22 Jan 2002 Posts: 11 Location: canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 9:36 am |
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Such a difficult choice!
I think it would be very interesting to be an apprentice painter to some of those old masters - you would certainly learn alot... I can't belive those buggers mixed their own paints! And they had no cadmiums (the horror :P)!
I personally would like to extend Schiele's life by a few... decades. Or have him cryofrozen to wake up now - maybe ppl wouldn't have so many problems w/his erotic art now.
Oh yeah, and that Bob-guy on PBS. The laid back one that makes sounds effects when he paints. I could use a soothing voice like his whenever I'm stressed out.
<edit> Do 'old masters' have to mean Western artists? I think it would be splendid to meet the Eastern masters Hokusai and Hiroshige... </edit>
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sensoryoverload member
Member # Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Posts: 64 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 8:53 pm |
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Masamune Shirow, H.R. Giger, Miyasaki!
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edraket member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 3:38 am |
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Well I guess this is more about how interesting of a person he or she would be.
In that case I would go for Oskar Kokoschka.
He was wildly romantic. So insanely in love with one women that it consumed him. |
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spooge demon member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 5:25 am |
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rodin
mmza, do you have and email? I have a goody for you.
Edit, oops, forgot my address. [email protected]
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gekitsu member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 10:54 am |
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uuh, that's a tough question...
for sure, meeting hitler would be quite interesting. on the one hand, he was not the most bad painter, on the other hand, chatting with hitler would help a lot understanding his psyche.
da vinci would be challenging, too...
but my favorite would be salvadore dali. i just love his style and i am interested in which way his phantasy works.
van gogh would be an interesting character also... just imagine, sitting there with van gogh, drinkeng absinthe and chatting about color...
nevertheless, hard decision but i'd go for dali |
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Tillek member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 3:32 pm |
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Hitler wasn't a very bad painter, didn't he get kicked out of artschool in florence?
Da Vinci has always been a hero of mine, so he'd be the master I'd like to meet. He had so many varied abilities, painting was just one of them. The Last Supper is my favorite painting of his. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 5:03 pm |
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Da Vinci, or Picasso. Da Vinci just because he was a genius. Picasso because his red and blue periods proved he could paint, but still wasn't afraid to abstract, a more modern master painter. I'd like to meet Andy Warhol so I could have killed him, err.. Maybe not. |
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mza member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 6:37 pm |
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jr - I remember dice mentioning max ginsburg a couple times. Does he have any stuff on line or perhaps a book? I'd like to check out his work.
Spooge - very curious...
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