[Probus]

what i mean is for instance, brushing a character into a 3d enviroment, or even a photo, then touch it all up to create this semi-real effect. i�ve heard this rarely comes out satisfying, but maybe you guys can show me some stuff of artists doing this well? or does noone does this sometimes?

[lazydead]

I believe these guys do something like that...

www.glyphx.com

[Silverwolf]

Every now and then I do this to keep my backgrounds a lot tighter, (mainly a perspective thing).

One of the biggest problems with integrating 2d and 3d is the textures of the objects and the preciseness of the ouput of 3d. Most things done in 2d have a painted look, even if it is airbrushed. Mixing the mediums creates a bit of a conflict because of the difference in rendering.

The couple of times I have had to worry about this mattering I actually painted over the 3d render in its entirety. Not huge amounts, but watercolor washes in painter, adding a little paper texture here and there. Just something to take a little bit of the perfection out of the 3d and add a litle bit of human to it.

The other way is to make sure that the textures that you are using for the 3d scene are compatible with your drawing style. This will often mean using hand painted textures to keep the look consistant. As far as I know they did a lot of this kind of work on the animated movie, Titan AE. A lot of 3d elements interacting with 2d characters and 2d hand painted backgrounds. In fact, I think they had some entirely 3d backgrounds as well, imo they blended the technologies remarkably well, the best yet. Check out the DVD, it has some cool footage of the process they went through.

Hope this helps.

(please excuse spelling and grammar, it's late....)

[Probus]

thanks both, maybe i�ll try this sometime. o yes, i saw titan AE, but not the footage on the dvd. i guess they did the same with alot of the new disney movies like emperor�s new groove and road to eldorado too.

[Robert Ashley]

Silverwolf, if you think that Titan AE was a good mix of 2d and 3d....you need to check out Tarzan (from Disney) or Princess Mononoke "Mononoke Hime" (from Ghiburi Collection)

Those have 3d backgrounds through out a lot of the film but you cant even tell!!! Well you can if you have a keen eye. But overall, amazing stuff from these guys who did the work of mixing the two.

[Darklighter]

i just started seriously doing that to get my own style out, and i like the way it makes my stuff look....

here's what i'm working on now, 3d part done, 2d part wip, soon to be finished



[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: Darklighter ]

[Probus]

well the way you do it sure makes it look good. I always have this perspective thing when i do 2d so it could help me out alot.
i wish, i wish....