[RampageLT]

Hey there guys,

I would like to clarify something right here and right now
I have been trying to get into doing some digital painting lately, but there is something that bugs me everytime I open my digital painting prog. of choice... chosing it. Photoshop seems to have the "simplicity" thing going for it, with the easy to use layers, and layering options and brushes. But at the other hand, Painter seems to have brushes and blending capabilities that seem superior to photoshop...here's what I mean:

PAINTER:



PHOTOSHOP:




Now...I could be doing something wrong, and that's why the brush strokes in the photoshop pic look that bad (I hope I'm wrong). Those PS brushes seem to overlay each other in an odd manner that makes it hard to get desired tones with more then one stroke, since they go up in tones each time you overlap a stroke.

I don't mean this to be a flaming thread on any of the packages, just opinions and tips.

Anyways, I will thank in advance all the pro's and nons in here for any comments/help on this!

Later!

[balistic]

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Looks like you're using a hard-edged brush in PShop, but a soft one in Painter.

[Pat]

You're right about the differences between Painter brushes and Photoshop brushes.

Here's my experience with the two:

Photoshop brushes often times take many more "passes" to get the right color, shading and texture. However, this plays to Photoshop's strength's, as it's brush engine is lightning quick --esp when dealing with large brushes and excessive resolutions.

Painter, on the other hand, has far superior smudging, blending and texturing brushes. Many times one or two passes can create something that a Photoshop user would have to work at for hours to create. However, the increased complexity of the brush engine slows every stroke --some brushes more than others. At excessive resolutions certain brushes are almost unusable.

There are more subtle and important differences too. Check out this image:



The brush on the left is Photoshop. I used a narrow brush to illustrate that all Photoshop brushes are essentially calligraphic in nature. No matter what the brush, it will always retain it's original orientation. The brush on the right is the Painter Scratchboard tool. Notice how the brush itself rotates as the stroke circles around? Obviously, this has certain advantages for those who consider mark-making especially important to their work.

Each program is remarkably flexible and capable to producing a wide variety of marks. Both can do things the other can't. Use the right tool for the job.

-Pat

[gekitsu]

i totally agree with you, pat.

photoshop has a lot of advantages like the easy-to-use-factor, the layer and channel system etc...
for graphics, photoshop is he best choice in my opinion.
on the other hand, painter allows far more things to tweak at your brushes. so, if you have a work, that comes down to pure brushpower, like digital painting for example, painter would be the better choice.
you cannot replace ps with painter or vice versa.

ah... i forgot: painting in photoshop does also work with mouse and comes out quite good... but at the point you have a wacom, painter puts out a lot more advantages. see the "expression" menu to see what i mean

[RampageLT]

Damn Pat, I think you nailed it. I ceteinly see the difference that you're talking bout. The best solution is to use whateer fits the job best, like you said. IMHO if painter had some better layering and simpler controls, I would probably use it 100% of the time. Seems that could be easier to happen then Photoshop making painter like brushes

Thanks for the help guys!


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