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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:23 am     Reply with quote
Any good Tuts for drawing fold? Or maybe someone here to help me?

Thx !
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2001 2:38 pm     Reply with quote
yea, i'm sure thats what he meant
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:15 pm     Reply with quote
Buy the book
Modelling and Sculpting the Human Figure by Edouard Lantieri

This is sculpting but with a very good section on folds, the best I've seen anywhere. Hogarth I've heard has a section on folds in one of his books, but I haven't checked it out, I'm under the impression his system is a bit less realistic and more stylized.

One important thing to bear in mind is the crossection of any cloth-fold is almost always smooth and rounded, circular or elliptical (either convex or concave). Sometimes the cross-section is a series of connected such arcs of different size. A fold can sometimes have straight lines connected with fairly small arcs, like in leather and stiff plastic, but the rule still holds, the arcs just become smaller.

The most common beginners mistake is to just wave the brush around a little haphazardly, trying to get the 'feeling' of folds, instead of focusing on the problem. This won't work, depending on the brush this may give you folds with square cross-sections, or triangular ones, or serrated ones, or lots of crisscrossing creases... you get the idea.

So the most useful shapes to keep in mind when doing folds is the cylinder and the cone, or if you can imagine a shape that's conical or flattened at both ends, but twisting in different directions in the middle, like a snake or rope. Practise shading these properly, smoothly and exactly, so they look circular or elliptical in cross-section.

As I mentioned, you could also think of folds as ropes, that vary in width, like badly stuffed sausages. Ropes, stuck at both ends (and thinner) but relatively free in the middle. So if the free part isn't rubbing against anything else, the hanging part will strive to become a perfect parabola, like you see in movie curtains etc.
(Though often this parabola has cricks in it, if the material is stiff.)

So your next important task is to try to visualize, where are the ends of the rope stuck? Very often only one such 'sticking place' is obvious, the other end of the rope just fading out into nothing. The knee of a bent leg is one such important 'sticking place'. (Pardon my silly terminology.)
The 'ropes' will be very visible in a pair of jeans, on the back of a bent knee - starting at the front, going round the back and ending again at the front. Sometimes two 'ropes' will meet and merge, sometimes one will end in the middle. The lower 'ropes' will be hanging down further and further, in that parabola shape I mentioned, down onto the calf, but at the same time becoming larger and shallower, like waves going out into deeper water. In fact waves and folds have a lot in common.

The size and spacing of the folds is directly related to the thickness and stiffness of the material. Study real folds in many different materials, and draw them, over and over, this is just as important for getting good at folds, as life drawing is for anatomical knowledge.
Hope this helps.

[ November 01, 2001: Message edited by: Steven Stahlberg ]

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:00 pm     Reply with quote
Try the tutes at http://www.polykarbon.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:05 am     Reply with quote
Thx!

I know www.polykarbon.com but the section about drawing folds isn't working for me.

So i will buy a book soon.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:14 am     Reply with quote
Fold? As in clothing folds?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2001 8:15 am     Reply with quote
Hogarth actually has an entire book on folds:

Amazon - Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery
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