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jr
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2001 7:45 pm     Reply with quote
this drawing was done by a 16 year old what do you think of it?

btw, angel is awesome!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2001 7:59 pm     Reply with quote
Lukias, invite the damn kid to this board! The kid is a winnar !!!!
http://www.geocities.com/joyjoyangel/Pictures/pictures/Original/chic.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2001 8:23 pm     Reply with quote
http://yazid.cjb.net
he's not 15, he's 17, but he's still an awesome artist! I've been following his site for a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2001 10:09 pm     Reply with quote
For anyone who's interested (and in Vancouver), there's a Young Artists exhibit on right now at Emily Carr, in the Concourse gallery. I don't know how long it'll be up for, but some of the work is bloody stunning. I walked by one piece tonight and thought 'Damn--that guy's 13? I wasn't even DRAWING when I was 13!' Hell, when I was 13, I thought flirting with older guys to get rides in their cars was a fine art.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 5:23 am     Reply with quote
Im 16

look at me look at me look at me..
Im so good for my age im the best...

well I feel its more to do with how long you have actually been trying to get good at this art stuff..

That Angel chic her work is awesome. I saw some of her stuff when she was 12 and I could see she had a good understanding of light and shade etc.. Well when I was her age, I just thought because I was young i couldn't possibly draw well. When I saw a professional illustration i thought, hmm I dunno like these people who did them were't human like as they get older they just get better.

But really you just have to open your eyes and start drawing on the right hand side of your brain.
im rambling on

anyway.. yea

look at my site. ----> NOw!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 5:29 am     Reply with quote
time to get that angel chick to post here! hehehe.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 5:57 am     Reply with quote
yeah angel is amazing.
lukias, that 16 year old became a 21 year old and here's his site
website
anywho, that was done at the met.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 6:35 am     Reply with quote
OMFG did you see that life drawing?? scary
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 8:19 am     Reply with quote
yazid is really good, i remember him along time ago all his stuff looked like corey lewis's stuff... but hes really grown from that i see...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 10:56 am     Reply with quote
I'm not young anymore.. But when I was about 17, people said I paint some pretty mature stuff while others were painting werewolves and transformers. But now there's nothing to brag about. It's time to improve my painting skills!

Anyone lives in Victoria, B.C.? I run a small art gallery only for young artists. So far, there were some great talent. But there aren't many people who knew about my art gallery yet.

[ July 20, 2001: Message edited by: Ahcri ]
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 12:45 pm     Reply with quote
What does it matter how old you are? What's important is what you DO, not who you are.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 1:08 pm     Reply with quote
wow, these young artists' work are indeed quite impressive. let just say that they are either lucky that they were expose to art at an early age, or they knew at an early age what they wanted to do with their life, and not waste their precious time.

i agree with blackfish, everyday is the day of the rest of your life, so work hard and you will achieve the same greatness or better.

as for me, I have been a late bloomer for all my life. it seems that time just stopped at one point and resulted a big gap in my mental and physical state. now that i finally realize what i wanna do, i will stay focus, and work it out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 3:25 pm     Reply with quote
I just felt that if I'm younger, people would get impressed more easily. If you're old, and you can't find a way to innovate, it's really unfortunate. Especially no one would be impressed when they compare your artwork to other people your age.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 4:13 pm     Reply with quote
have you ever seen sargents stuff when he was 14??
i'm very fortunate to have been raised in new york city, i was exposed to great artwork in the museums. i started copying the old masters' paintings when i was 14(i drew them). sort of a novelty to some of the tourist or a freak show depending on how you look at it. some of those crude drawings taught me a lot i find that alot of students skip the fundamentals and jump right into craig mullins-esk work. the majority fail and blame it on not having god-given skill. the truth is that there's no short cut to creating bitchin' artwork. when i show people drawings i did when i was 15 or 16, i don't make it a point to tell them my age when i did it. (agrandizing is for insecure people) for me looking at a 15 year old do artwork like angel (or sargent!) inspires me, only because it reminds me of the enthusiasm i had when i was that young. but it doesn't really matter how old or good you are when you start it's about how good you get when you're dead. toodles.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 4:24 pm     Reply with quote
These young artists often get a lot of 'wow, you're pretty good for your age' and 'you've got a lot of potential' crap. The thing is, these artists dont care how good they're going to be in five years. They care about how good they are now. Also its hard for them to get any good critiques when older artists are too intimidated to give the younger ones advice. So yeah, blackfish and jr are absolutely right.

[ July 20, 2001: Message edited by: hades ]
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2001 4:30 pm     Reply with quote
I don't see how a person's age effects the quality of their art. Some people are talented at a young age, some realise their talents at a later date.

[ July 20, 2001: Message edited by: ceenda ]
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2001 3:04 pm     Reply with quote
here's my opinion in things, and im a teenager. a agree that most of these younguns do things to impress their peers or someone more mature then them. i know, i do it myself a few times. but individually, as a artist, i build apon what skills i have now for other things. i've got my rendering down.. i know i do, so im not gonna build apon it anymore. i see composition, lighting, and color schemes as something even more important then just being able to copy a photograph with a pencil and making it indistinguishable.

and going on what hades said. i dont care how i am now. i care how i am later in life. i am very fortunate to have the art teacher i have now, because he just doesn't say "wow you're good," he goes on, helps me with my composition and etc.

yes i am young. yes, i do care about my skills in the future, not just the present. yes, i know i am one of the top art students in my class. but do i let that effect my ego? no.i dont care if people think that about me, i just want to do art, and thats what i plan to do in life.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2001 5:13 pm     Reply with quote
hi, im 15.. im pretty good artist myself, i dont wanna brag or anything, but I've got strait A's throughout school,and i hope to continue to do so, dont jinx me.. too bad i cant say the same with all my other classes, muahahaha.. they even put me in a higher level of art class then other kids my age.. now im with older people.. anyways.. I bet i can draw better then that picture shown on the first post , no im serious .. Ill try and get myself in the mood to draw a good picture .. it's usually the mood im in that effects my work.. if i feel excited about what im drawing, or making.. it makes me want to do a great job on it/work more on it..

yeah, im young.. and i have tons of things to try out.. but yeah, i think im pretty good at what i do.. all I did was practice, ive been drawing all my life so far.. and people allways say to me like.. soo..you ganna be a artist when you grow up? .. and im allways like.. i dunno.. cause i actually dunno what i want to do later in my life.. i never did.. and i still dont.. i want to do many things, but im not sure what to do the most.. ill continue to get better and better with wat i do

ill continue to draw and do art though, and post my work on this forum..
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2001 11:44 pm     Reply with quote
I agree with all of you. When I was 14, I was doing pencil portraits that were indistinguishable from B/W photographs. I would sit there and render every strand of hair and every subtle shadow perfectly. Sure, it proved I had far superior rendering technique, even compared to many of the older guys with a masters degree in fine arts(I would show my stuff to professional artists, and they'd be amazed and feel intimidated), but beyond that, it proved NOTHING. In fact, I later realized that I used my rendering skills excessively to mask my shortcomings in composition, design, and anatomy.

I went through a stage when I thought invisible brushstrokes was the pinacle of technique. I worshipped Bouguereau and early Boris at that age. It wasn't till when I was a little older did I fall in love with the more painterly styles like Sargent.

Later, I discoverd artists that had very simple rendering styles, but very strong in other departments. For example, Jaime Hernandez influenced me quite a bit because how strong his figure drawing was, even though most of his work is just simple lines and solid black. Same could be said for Mike Mignola.

Now, I realized that it made no difference I had my rendering technique down at an early age. It doesn't guarantee that I'll be better than others as an adult.

The important thing is, learn at your own pace. Grow as an artist for yourself, not to impress others. Many child-geniuses grow up to be nothing extra special. Early success does not mean it'll continue throughout your life.

Just look at me: I was considered a genius artistically when I was a teenager. As an adult, I'm just above average. Maybe I stopped trying. Maybe that's the extent of my talent. Maybe I just got distracted by other creative things(writing, music, photography, film..etc). Either way, I'm nothing special anymore, and I'm OK with that. Just being creative is enough for me.
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