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EllisR · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2001 10:02 pm

I'm surprised no one else has brought it up. I just watched it for a second time today. The whole movie is pure eye candy.

But then it's mind-boggling to think of all the work that went behind creating it. There were so many moments where I forgot that the movie is fully computer generated.

Well anyway, just felt like sharing that.

waylon · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 12:27 am

Yeah, I was very impressed by the rendering as well. The plot was... well, not exceptional, but not bad. One thing I noticed, though, was that Loki wasn't mentioned in the credits for his concept work (even though I think I recognized one of the scenes he designed.)

And on a slightly related note... anybody know which matte paintings were spooge's?

MoleculeMan · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 7:36 am

That movie was sooo great to watch. There were a few times i forgot it was CGI and not people-action-movie-thingie (most notably when the evil general guy was floating in zero-g to go to the controls to the Cannon Thing). The plot like said, wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad either so that helped a lot too. I hate it when a plot gets in the way of good effects!

dr . bang · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 7:41 am

hehe, as you didnt know, there were like 3 threads about FF in random musing. Lol, anyway, go there and read the discussion

Loki · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 8:49 am

I suspected that I wouldn't get any credits. Why should I? I just put nearly to years of my life into that project. Oh well.

I'm going to see it tonight. Can't wait to see how things turned out ...

dr . bang · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 8:54 am

Loki, the movie is #1 at the box office right now

I'm gonna see it again , I noticed a couple of matte background, which one did you do?

Vgta · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 9:02 am

Hey there's Loki, I was asking if anyone knew where you were on the Random musings section, fucking sucks that you didn't get acredited for your contribution. Hey man, we'll spread the word for sure.
Which paintings did you do?

29A · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 3:46 pm

shaddap! it's not released until october here

sometimes i really hate the mpaa, instead of just not agreeing with them.

binke: look sir, droids!

marky · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 7:07 pm

I think thats terrible that you don't even get a credit. Even if theres like 2,000 people working on the movie there must be a way!

Hope they paid you well

A.Buttle · member Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 1724

The ending rocked me like a hurricane.

Frost · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 8:10 pm

waylon: I'm not sure, but there was one matte in particular that reminded me a LOT of spooge, and that was the sand-colored beach-like scene with the space ships stuck in sand or such in Aki's dream. Hmm, anyway... I don't think that gave away any part of the movie...

burn0ut · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 8:57 pm

that movie was bad ass.
not much stuff bothered me about the movie, just there necks didnt seem to work very well heh.
the last of her dreams reminded me of somethin spooge did..

Loki · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 8:52 am

Movie was great. Visually insane. Story ok - did the job. I had a great time. And it also brought up a lot of memories.

Yeah - I'm really sad that I didn't get credit on this one. Not so much for showing off that I worked on it, but it would've been good to feel appreciated with that credit. I gave this movie two years of my life and contributed a lot in pre-production. One of the things I had forgotten is, that I came up with the name for the 'Zeus' cannon. I thought - well - it's throwing lightnings from above the skies. My friend Neville came up with 'bioethereal' energy - we thought those up over a beer ...
I did a lot of conceptual work too.
It just feels like a 'fuck you' - and that's why it hurts ... oh well.

Mattes: the only things that made it in are a couple of earth backgrounds and a vortex when the cannon is firing ... I'll put them up once the movie has left the theatres.

well - onto new things

Frost · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 9:22 am

(frost hugs loki... that really really sucks my friend.)

marky · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 1:12 pm

Yeah its a whole new world when you an create "performances" with CG. Final Fantasy is a great example of this

The whole CG industry needs to get its act together when it comes to credits. Its really like a whole new art form - and when you get new forms, there is always the potential
for exploiting people.

No-one would dream of employing an actor - and not crediting them, I think the unions take care of that.

Ben Barker · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 11:06 pm

The movie was great!
That sucks though Loki

H.R. Giger was shafted by Fox for Aliens, Alien III, AND Alien: Resurection

Then they put the caterers in the credits, how fucked up is that?

proximo · member Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2000 Posts: 467

Well i have to go with most of you on saying that the vis on the movie was awsome, but reading that loki put so much time into the movie and did not get a credit makes me kind of mad, i mean thats just no right and it just goes to show you what dicks peeps can be in the industry, Loki, you know what you did and we all know what you did and we feel for ya man .. take care

and im looking forward to seeing your matts on your site..

anyhow guys talk to ya later.

Prox

TekK · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 11:40 pm

damn, loki, that sucks ass... i haven't gotten around to watching it yet, but i'll probably do so either tomorrow night or sometime next week... it'll be something to keep in mind when i watch it, though... and i'll definitely look out for the mattes you mentioned, coz your work is really amazing...

::a toast to loki! ::

cheers,
teck

dr . bang · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 11:43 pm

Thats sad that they didn't even credit you loki. Anyway, in the Internet Movie Database site, they didn't even credit the guy who created Aki Ross (it took him 4 years to do her)

I think actors are being over rated, artists should deserve more attention!

[ July 14, 2001: Message edited by: dr . bang ]

Loki · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2001 8:44 am

Thanks guys. You're a cool bunch!

I think when you leave a project early, you're quite often not getting credit, since you busted out in the middle. So maybe I deserve it.
Also - there is not a lot of work that I did on the screen. Just a couple of earths that are nothing special - I was more active in the preproduction phase ...

Spooge's mattes are sweet. I definetely spotted one, and I think I caught one more. Great work man!

Binke · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2001 6:14 pm

29A: The tracks go off in that direction!