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Gimbal8
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2001 12:33 pm     Reply with quote
I posted this on another forum but since then I've been doing some experiments and I noticed I'm having this problem with the dodge/burn tool as well as the airbrush.

I lay down a solid color and either using the dodge tool or airbrush color over it and for some reason there appears this faint repeating square pattern of noise on the picture. Here are a couple pics that first made me see it. (Just ignore all the perspective problems with the nose and eyes etc, I was experimenting anyway). The second one has had some level adjustment which made the problem easier to see.





These were completely done in Photoshop4 with a Wacom tablet but I was able to reproduce the same problem on a different machine (still photoshop4 though) with just a mouse. I tried changing brush spacing and although it has an effect on it it doesn't make it go away.

Anybody know what this is or how to make it go away?
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Loki
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2001 1:51 pm     Reply with quote
It's probably mach-banding. Inherent weakness of 8-bit color-space that leads to quantisation in the image when dealing with values that are close to each other ...

Happens also when you're working with a faint airbrush on a similar color ...

Adobe puts all that web-crap into PS, but we're still waiting for full 16-bit per channel support after all those years - makes me mad
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Frost
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2001 4:48 pm     Reply with quote
Adobe knows what's important... web crap! That's where the money is!! Screw 16-bit precision or a tool/brush interface that makes sense... as long as it exports web friendly graphics and transparent GIFs, who can complain or ask for more?!
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G Man
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2001 5:00 pm     Reply with quote
Totally agree. I just have a similar problem using painter(classic) that when I am adding water to it It seems to 'band' the colour. Is this because of the low resolution, or is it just a bug? I mean I thought it was meant to use industry standard colour charts.

Thanks
-Gav
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2001 11:15 pm     Reply with quote
yea I actually noticed that today when using photoshop.\

so I just switched back to the paintbrush
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Gimbal8
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2001 8:32 am     Reply with quote
Damn. Just when I thought I found a rendering method I might get good at. I guess getting a new version of Photoshop wouldn't help then. Maybe I'll just say that it is the texture of the canvas I was painting on since it has almost such a pattern



Maybe I'll re-install the little version of Painter that came with the Wacom.
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