Sijun Forums :: View topic - Help with Photoshop Tool--Smudging

Eric Pommer · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 4:46 pm

Hi all,

I've been doing some experimenting with digital landscape artwork, after having been inspired by a few sites I've visited. I've done landscapes in oils for a while, and now I'm feeling kind of excited by the posibilities in digital art. I'm using Photoshop 5.5, and I'm trying to find a tool with a particular function, if it exists.

Is there any tool that takes colour and pulls it over another colour, allowing the two to blend? The effect would be like blending two wet colours in oils. The smudge tool just pulls new colour over top of the old...the two colours don't really blend. Anyone know of a way to do this?

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Pat · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:39 pm

Try clicking on the "finger painting" option in the smudge tool tab. This might be close to what you're looking for. You used to be able to alternate between the regular smudge tool and finger painting by holding down the option key (alt, I think for a PC) in PS4.0. I can't seem to do that in 5.5.

-Pat

Eric Pommer · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:53 pm

I've tried the 'finger painting' option, but as far as I can tell it does the same thing as smudging (ie, colour goes over top), but it lifts colour from the starting point, creating a 'finger print'. I'm hoping there is some way to smudge and blend at the same time.

Jezebel · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 6:17 pm

Perhaps if you tone down the opacity on the smudge tool?

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Eric Pommer · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2001 5:41 am

That would be ideal...do you know how to do that? It doesn't come up as an option for me in 5.5

Sumaleth · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2001 7:23 am

If you're really keen on doing that sort of thing it might be worth checking out Painter. It's much more of a 'natural painting' type program whereas Photoshop is (unfortunately) mainly -aimed- at photo-manipulation (although the results you can get just using the two paintbrush tools are pretty endless).

Row.

RobT · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2001 8:43 pm

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Originally posted by Eric Pommer:
That would be ideal...do you know how to do that? It doesn't come up as an option for me in 5.5

Go to the brush pallete and set the opacity there. Anywhere from 50% - 70% should do it.

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Eric Pommer · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2001 10:50 pm

You'll have to forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but where is the opacity option? The only options I see in the brush pallete are roundness, spacing and angle.

RobT · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2001 10:09 am

Actually the opacity is in the options tools.

Go to the your menu and click on "Window"
and make sure reads "show options" and not "hide options".

You should have a box that has three tabs on it. That is where the smudge options are located.

Here a screenshot

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Eric Pommer · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2001 10:54 am

Ok, I follow you that far...are you talking about the "Pressure" option? I've played with that...it tends to affect how much colour you pull, but doesn't really blend it. I still can't find any "Opacity" option.

Alloy · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2001 12:34 am

Turning down the pressure will help. The key is more technique, after messing with the smudge tool for awhile, you realize how it affects surrounding pixels when working. It's more where you place it during initial smudge. It takes time to get the "finesse" and polish, but by carefully smudging from the end of one color onto another with a small brush and light presure, over time, you'll create a smooth gradient...as smooth or as harsh as you want really.

Just takes familiarity with the tool.

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topeira · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2001 6:36 am

i wish i could help, cuz that would mean i can do it in photoshop... but i can't. when i want an effect similar to that i go to painter. the "Add water" tool does this. or at least closer than the smudge in photoshop. sometimes i flip between photoshop and painter when i do a certain pic. it's annoying but i didn't find a better way....

hope this helps

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Lunatique · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2001 11:34 am

No, try this instead.

Use the brush and paint a color, but adjusting the OPACITY(you can just type from numbers 0-9 for different levels as you paint). Don't use blend, because it doesn't really mix two colors.

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