[NDR113]

Well as some of you might know I'm reasonably new to this forum. And I've only started learning how to draw a few weeks ago. it's going pretty wel so far. Although I'm not that great of a sketch artist. My friend DRX tries to color and render all my drawings. Anyway I've started learning how to draw 'semi-realistic humans'. I use this term because I still have some problems with proportions as you can see. And i make up fantasy stuff as I go along. Just because I want to give them an outfit or something (Im not a fashiondesigner) The first picture is just a vampire girl wlaking through water. I made it as a guideline for DRX to practise water, skin ,hair, folded and ripped clothing on. I know not everything is that good. Like the hands. But I have a problem with the legs that i can't define. And the hair will be changed by DRX. I already noticed that was off balance at her forehead. In case you are wondering...I sketched some basic tears for her dress. To give the basic idea of what it should look like. The rest can be painted later on using this as a guideline. The other picture is one I made up for muscle stucture. The picture is not finished yet ofcourse. But I just wanted to know if all the shapes of the muscles are correct...Did I skip any? or did I draw too much? Did I draw the flow into the wrong direction at some points perhaps? She just looks really weird to me. but then again...I've only been drawing for a few weeks now. So I have to get used to everything. Suggestions will be very much appreciated.





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[NDR113]

Oops sorry! I guess I really am a newbie. Well I hope the other thread will be deleted by someone soon. And if not I appologize once more for any inconvenience I might've caused. It won't happen again.

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[[Shizo]]

All i can say that the second dude has the boots from KISS! Heheh,, As for drawing.. forget the "shapes". People lie when they talk about everything made out of shapes, it's no true =]
And yes i saw examples of what they mean and explanations.. All junk. Forget the shapes and draw like a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

peace ousside.

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[Tinusch]

Study this, it should help you out a little.

[skyediver]

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Originally posted by [Shizo]:
As for drawing.. forget the "shapes". People lie when they talk about everything made out of shapes, it's no true =]
And yes i saw examples of what they mean and explanations.. All junk. Forget the shapes and draw like a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wha? I see things in shapes!! No really... Don't diss shapes, man...

Seriously though, even when I draw people I don't pay attention to that. I notice your sketches lack a roughed out "skeleton", if you will. Basically you start out w/ a stick figure, though I don't do that as much anymore, heh... I don't know if I can be of much help to you, I'm so bad at it. My advice is just to study people in real life, just don't let them catch you staring at them... That's what I did, and by the time my mum forced me to take a figure drawing class, I knew all the damned stuff already. =)

[NDR113]

Well thanks anyway I looked into it some more today and I understand it better now. I just took out some charts of human muscles. But you were wrong about my stick figures actually. They are there. But I erased them. I usually draw those very lightly. I'm not saying I'm good at it though. I have very poor eyesight. And sometimes when I draw at night everything gets out of shape. Then when I'm done outlining I see little errors wich I have to correct because I'm a perfectionist. I'm looking into it all. If anyone has any suggestions on what needs to be fixed they are ofcourse welcome.

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[Mozeman]

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Originally posted by NDR113:
But I just wanted to know if all the shapes of the muscles are correct...Did I skip any? or did I draw too much?

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This might sound a little harsh, but it's tough love. Your drawings are probably not even remotely close to what you think they are or want them to be. You're describing "tears" and "folded clothing" as if those things are represented in your sketches. Those little details should be the last thing you are worried about at this point.

When someone has just started as you have, it's actually a little easier to learn. DON'T draw blind. DO use reference, life drawings, instruction, and every guide that you can find. You are trying way too much right off the bat. I can understand wanting to dive right in, but it isn't doing you any good.

What you should start with is life drawing and a good comprehensive study of anatomy. Before you worry about costumes, fangs, hair, boots, etc. get out the ol' sketch book and go out and draw. Even cartoons are based on reality. Draw what you see, not what you THINK you see. Put it all down on paper as quickly as possible. Study life, study people, study anatomy. Get some books on anatomy and study those as well. If you can't afford books, then you can usually find some reference material in libraries. Nudes are going to be essential, but I don't know how old you are or how much access you have to nude models.

And DON'T erase those construction lines that skyediver was talking about. Without those lines there, it's hard to know what you're doing wrong of give good pointers.

The bottom line is study, study, study. The secret to getting better is knowing what you don't know.

Good luck.

[NDR113]

Thank you...and yes You are right. I'm getting an education in portrait and model drawing ( or whatever it's called) soon. And I'm going to learn how to paint aswell. But the classes haven't started yet. So in the mean time I'm just figuring out stuff. I didn't realise I sucked that much though. You are right when you say I go at it all wrong because I don't know all that I'm doing yet. That's maybe because I used to do a little graffitti when I was younger. And I still relate to that too much. But I do think I have the right idea already though. I just need to work faster and make less mistakes. Answer to your question...I'm 24 and ofcourse I have acces to nude models. I can get several girls to pose naked for me if i want to. But I'll have to prove I can do it first. hehe That 'take of your clothes, it's k, I'm an artist' line only works when you can actually show the result will be good. I'll take a class first then. And after that I'll start drawing friends maybe. trying to draw naked people. But I just can't help outlining in an early stage. I have to quit that. Oh before I forget...I want to take up painting. I can't find anything in digital painting. But there's enough regular painting classes around. Wich one comes closest to working digitally? I notice that some of you use techniques that I also recognise in fine paintings etc. I'm not interested in painting on canvas. I think it's a waste of material. You can't erase mistakes, etc. And basically I just want to work on the computer. But I guess I'll have to learn how to paint regulairly first then. Anyone have any suggestions? Classes will start again in February I think. So I still have some time. Thanks again

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...I would rather die as a man than live eternally as a robot..."Andrew Martin"