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SizzorIntake · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 8:14 am

Ahem... ok...

I just turned 13 a week ago, and I'm relly intrested in graphx. I'm not good at drawing

. I was wondering if there was any advice you guys could give me on how to start drawing, tuts guides, techniques etc. I'm getting a WACOM tablet soon, and I was wondering, should I get the biggest tablet for the money I have, or should I get a smaller tablet and a bigger pen?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!!!

Thx,
Sizzor

Rhomb · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 8:51 am

Check out the information and links in the "Frequently asked questions" section.

Tiger Eaten · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 8:55 am

A smaller tablet and a bigger pen? That conjures up an image that doesn't seem likely to help you.

You my friend have something that a good many of us would KILL for. And that is the luxury of time. I think if anyone here were to give you advice it would be to USE YOUR TIME WISELY. Draw, sketch, trace, take classes, explore animation, try to model things with clay.

One of the worst things you can do is lie to yourself about things. You sketch something one day out of the week and tell yourself "I have an active interest in drawing", well that may be true but it won't get you to where you are going. More, more, more!

I recommend you take a look at Robert Crumbs diary "Your vigor for life appauls me." He's a good one to look at if you want to see what sort of dedicated people are out there. There is also an excellent movie about him as well but it has some pretty racy content so you might want to get to that a little later on. Of course he's nuts too, so there is a price to pay for one's deeps interests.

Getting a Wacom is good if you are interested in digital, but the basics are even better. Go to art class. Doodle in math class. Just use your time!!!! As far as tuts and advice go, I think you are already in the right place.

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Tinusch · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 8:55 am

I'd suggest getting the basics down on paper first. If you can't draw, then jumping into digital art might not be the best idea just yet. If you don't get the basics down first, you won't get anywhere. Start out drawing normally, trying out different techniques of sketching and whatnot. When you're comfortable with your pencil/paper abilities, then try digital.

SizzorIntake · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 9:47 am

is it ok (better?) to star with a WACOM???

Bare Bonez · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 9:56 am

Hey man,

I started drawing when I was about 13 too and you know what? I'm still pretty bad. I don't recommend getting a tablet just yet. Invest in a good pencil set and sketch book. Then draw like mad.

Good tuts. Um... A book by Betty Edwards is pretty good. It's called "Drawing from the Right side of the brain."

My approach is to draw what you draw well at and master it. After awhile you'll develop techniques that can apply to what you want to be able to draw. For example, I draw toons ok, so even though I wanted to draw realistically, I continued to draw and color toons. This helped 'cause the coloring techniques I used in toons can be applied to realism (though choice of colors may be different).. anyway, does this make any sense?

I guess the whole thing is that it takes a lot of time and a lot of practice. It's definitely a good hobby with great rewards.

All the best with it! And post your pics. These guys here are so helpful and you'll probably develop your drawing skills a lot faster.

-b�

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

Get the biggest pen you can.. So you can draw with a HUGE pen ehhehehe BIG pen!

big pen.. hehe

SizzorIntake · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 10:27 am

I was reffering to the airbrush pen...

It's "big"!!!

burn0ut · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 11:48 am

id recomend starting with a pencil and paper and get to work if your just starting now

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Shadow · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 1:52 pm

go to a store, get a 10 pound stack of paper, 2-5 pens, 25 pencils, 2 pencil sharpeners, a flashlight, a lamp, 5-10 compatable batteries to the flashlight, a few sets of color pencils and markers, pizza for the first few days, microwavable meals the the rest, microwave, run home, lock yourself in the basement, and DRAWWWWWWWWWWWW until you run out of supplies

-S

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

AHHAHAHA!! AHHAAH!! THIS SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE ALL NEED!

a BIG pen
http://www.wacom.com/index2.cfm

Jerry · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 5:03 pm

young artist huh? well I'm 14 now and started digital arts less than half a year ago... I don't have a tablet and thinking of getting one... but that depends if you want to be an artist when you grow up or not. I've decided to be one so any other useless stuff that I want and don't need I don't buy that's why I have $6000 in the bank and $400 at home for spending. I'll get to the point now... If you really want to be a digital artsist go ahead if not save up and buy your microscopes and be a scientist, or telescope for astronamer, or soil to be a gardener, or just save up and be a gambler.

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SizzorIntake · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 11:35 pm

I want to be a 3D graphx artist...

anticz · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 12:00 am

Forget about the computer for a while!! It's just a tool. It's no different than a pencil and paper (just cost's alot more money). Spend your money on some good art supplies and look for an art school or atlier in your area that offers drawing classes. Learn how to use the traditional tools FIRST. Practice EVERY day. A computer can't create great art, only you can.

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Shaded · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 12:06 am

erm...

Loukus · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 12:48 am

Don't underestingmate drawing on the right side of the brain by betty edwards... from stick figures to Da Vince in five days, It's true... I'm serious.

JL

Fianchetto! · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 1:55 am

Hey SizzorIntake- I would like to start by saying that I agree 100% with Tiger Eaten you are extremely fortunate to be the age you are and have a defined interest such as you do. (You to Jerry). You are also fortunate that you happened upon a forum like this one with so many professionals that are ready and willing to help. I would like to wish you luck in your future in what I assume will "Digital Art".

However, when I read your post I am a little confused so I will ask to clear it up for myself. You say you're intersted in graphics. Well, I will say that graphics and design could be considered to be something different from Art, painting and drawing. I have known people who have an eye for design (i.e. page layout, web design, color, logo's etc) but could not draw or paint anything that was really good enough to sell. So, I think you need to figure out what it is you want to do. Do you want to draw and paint as good as a lot of these guys on this forum or do you want to setup web pages and do layouts for a living? Sorry for rambling but I think there is a difference.

As for your drawing skills I agree with Tinusch you need a decent sketchpad and a set of Stanford Turquoise pencils (my personal pics) and a real nice Factis eraser (maybe a couple) and get to work! I wouldn't worry about a tablet yet and the computer really is just a tool. All 3D artists I have run into have said that you need to know how to draw and understand the human anatomy (among other things) to be good in a 3D environment. Maybe someone could correct me if I'm wrong...

The final words from me is this, starting to draw is easy, sticking with drawing is hard. Remember anything worth doing is worth doing well and anything you do well you have done a lot. PRACTICE!

Sorry everyone it's early...

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Fianchetto!

Periadam · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 6:24 pm

Well, I'll start by saying I'm 16, and I already have my tablet. I got it about a month ago, and it was the best $170 I ever spent... but that doesn't mean running off and buying one right away. It won't do you much good if you can't draw.

I've been drawing for as long as I can remember and doing digital art for the past 4 years, 3D Graphics for about a year and a half. And I have been VERY fortunate to have been able to get all the good hardware and software. But, even though I'm newer at it than lots of ppl on here, I still started with pencil and paper just like everybody else.

So best of luck to you. Hopefully you'll be as fortunate as I've been.

-Peri

SizzorIntake · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:05 am

ok... today I'm gonna go out and buy pencils, pencil sharpenrs, erasers (rubbers

) paper etc...

Jerry · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 3:13 pm

Fianchetto!: I like doing both... Webpage making and going into the arts field here are two examples:
http://www.webcom3000.net
http://www.realdeathmatch.com
I like doing both because they're both related to arts in some way I guess... pencil and earaser I need but there's this new Wacom Tablet that has a LCD monitor built to it that would improve everyone's drawing a lot I guess... and I think a tablet is needed just as much as pencil and paper.

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SizzorIntake · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 3:30 pm

I am aware of the LCD tablet!!!

I think graphics and design have alot in common. You have to design your graphics in such a way that they hook the persons attention. I also do web design etc...

Tron · member Member # Joined: 15 Dec 2000 Posts: 118

Bigger Pen ?
Whatfor ?

kardis · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2000 8:37 pm

tron... please.. like hit the [1] in the bottem of the thing.. and switch to the month of december..

-kardis

samdragon · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2000 10:26 pm

If you really want to go into this field, learn as much as you can about it first.
Read books, magazines etc.
As for your art education, same goes for that too. there are alot of books out there to help get you started.
Don't let the computer be a crutch for your inabilities.
If you can bring good design and traditional skills to the computer, you'll be better off.

Yes, draw every chance you get! "think when you draw" Study your subjects and try to put down what you see. Nature is your best source for subject matter, color and light.
It's also good to take notes on things. Sometimes I can't draw something, because it's constantly moving or too dark. So I'll sketch what I can, and then make notes on it beside my sketches, later I'll try to remember what I saw, or what I thought I saw and then try and draw it out from memory and the notes I have. This is a good exercise to remember, helped me out a whole bunch!
Learn the basics of design..PLEASE! so many people ignore the basic design elements and it shows. They may be able to produce nice work, but design wise..yak!
Good luck with your choice, there are alot of things to learn in this forum, and alot fo things not to learn, so stick around.