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Bizarde
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 10:09 am     Reply with quote
i did this for some work reasons, but, it was rejected... dono why, maybe you guyz can tell me.
oh, is underwater character, it suppose to be huge and mechanical. in my opinion looks enough close to what they ask...



what's your opinion ?

~bizarde
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nil900
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 10:17 am     Reply with quote
Great work Bizarde. Post a coloured version of it. I'm sure it would look great with a little water environment.
I'm not sure but the "had" of the whale seems to have another angle than the body.
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Rob
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 10:18 am     Reply with quote
hmmm nice pic, I think that maybe the client didnt want this image because they have already decided what they really want, but they never give enough of a brief to translate their desires. Good work. Rob
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 10:23 am     Reply with quote
It doesn't look real solid like a big whale should be. Looks skeletal towards the center.. a little too mechanical looking I guess. It is a cool design, but if you made that into a 3d model it would look kind of freakish.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 10:26 am     Reply with quote
if you worked for me, that would have went through. i agree with chapel though when i look at the center of the body. I'd aim for having more of a solid, weighty feel to the center before presenting a new type.

-synj www.synj.net
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Bizarde
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 11:45 am     Reply with quote
nil: i don't know if will happen this...only if the client...
thanx.

Rob: seems like you know what's wrong with "the CLIENT"
thanx.

Chapel: i guess you'r right, the whale looks weak in the middle part. i'll take care with this.
thanx.

Synj : actually i'm working on the second version. thanx.
(i don't know what's happend with your link for "Mr. KOY"... )

sorry for late answer, i'm working in this time. thank you guyz for your useful tips...

~bizarde
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 11:50 am     Reply with quote
that's the coolest thing I've seen all day!
Really nice concept.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 1:07 pm     Reply with quote
bizarde: there's a link broken to koy? where?

-synj
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 11:45 pm     Reply with quote
I love it.. be excellent to see it coloured and a nice ocean scene painted in.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2000 11:52 pm     Reply with quote
Looks good to me, but the customer is always right, neh?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2000 12:17 am     Reply with quote
I presume this is a cross section of the whale ?

Excellent picture, Very cool mechenical details. Unfortunately, I think it's too small, if you client wanted it "huge and mechanical", give it smaller mechenical parts, smaller rivets, smaller gears, etc. Alternatively, you could make the sketch of a really, really huge piece of paper ...

And the head could be a little more tapered

But I really, really, really like it as it stands.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2000 12:23 am     Reply with quote
I really like your stuff Bizarde and this design is very cool.

Chapel makes a good point. IMHO, the whale would look cool if it was more bulked out in armoured plating.

Great stuff Bizarde.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2000 2:40 pm     Reply with quote
Guess it was just too....bizarre! You don't want to frighten them poor gamers, do you? Yeah, pity. It's a cool concept (though I've seen something similar for some capt. nemo submarine by another concept artist). But hey, you didn't work for the trashbin, since you had the practice and you can still feed it to sijun. And me likes a lot! More!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2000 5:27 pm     Reply with quote
good one bizarde! i�ve seen a mechanical whale before by rodney matthews <- do you know him? i think he did it for "asia" (the band) - don�t know if they�ve used it for a cover!?

-GodChi
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2000 10:00 am     Reply with quote
This is a really good design! What did the people you made it for say about it? What were they expecting? Something more like a whale as if it were in a Megaman Nintendo game??
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Bizarde
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2000 1:08 pm     Reply with quote
Dives: maybe because is not a normal whale...
i do my job in Hungary.
thanx.
Francis: thank you Francis, is not happend every day to have a guest like you.
i appreciate your help, i missed Rinaldo's thread.

i'll post the second version soon.

~bizarde
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2000 6:02 pm     Reply with quote
Bizarde: Looks really cool, no crits from me. Is this piece also for Ecco the Dolphin? Because those games rule. Anyway, good job.

Francis: Awesome job too. It really feels huge and ominous. Good work.

Peace out homies.

Oops, just remembered. Has anybody read/seen the Dinotopia series of children's books? They contain awesome paintings by James Gurney of not only dinosaurs, but organic-inspired mechanical devices. The latest book especially has cool machines designed to look like scorpions, trilobytes, dinosaurs, etc. Anyway... um... later.

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mmm... sacrelicious

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2000 10:57 pm     Reply with quote
Mega Man style robots usually have smooth metal plate skin, some seams in between sections and distinguished joints, usaually with some empty space in the joint so you can see inside a bit.

Mega Man robots only show their inside components whem Mega Man is shooting them to bits

I like the hollow torso effect you created for this particular pic. That transparent chamber is very mysterious.
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Bizarde
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2000 12:03 am     Reply with quote
wow, long list.
agent: so, i saved the day ?! ...
ceenda: roger that, i'm work on it.
sinj: it's ok now. you can imagine all the members downloading at once...
Acid: dono if i'll go soo far...but thanx
Lord: ...
Trans: nope, is side view. they ask to see the scketch, so this is the scketch. you know big papers, big problems. wow, i didn't noticed...
Jaymo: just stick around...
GodChi: dono this artist, i'll check it, thanx.
Sergenth: i never played that game, hope is not to close...i hate this stuff. the guyz finaly want some organic parts on it, so, i'm back to work.

i would like to thanks you guyz for you suport and advices, thank you once again, cya !

~bizarde


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Dives
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2000 12:13 am     Reply with quote
Cool picture but the things in the front disturb me. Where do you work exactly?
Oh Im romanian too by the way
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Francis
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2000 12:17 am     Reply with quote
Looking pretty cool so far. Clients always change their minds once they see an image based on what they described. I've been through that quite a bit.

I hate to keep doing this (I posted an old image of mine in Rinaldo's thread), but I had an old image that is similar to yours. This is something I did several years ago - I was trying to do the same thing, basically make a giant, battleship-scale mechanical marine creature. Maybe this will give you some ideas. If not, sorry for littering your thread.



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