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Enayla · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 11:21 am

My friends reminded me that I always draw perfect people... so I tried not to. That is, I gave a shot at drawing someone far less than perfect...

Did I succeed? This isn't someone pretty, right?

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Awetopsy · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 11:38 am

I dunno Enayla, looks fairly pretty-boyish to me.

hes gotta have scars and warts and hair that doesnt belong... try making him slouch and sneer a bit.

anyway thats my two cents

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Enayla · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 11:46 am

Awww... damn... I don't want him to have /scars/... just not a pretty face. *slumps* Hm... I'll work on it.

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Enayla · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:05 pm

Hoookay. Tried to... make him more ugly. *frowns* And suddenly I don't like the picture anymore

I /like/ pretty people.

Anyway. How do you make hair look lank? I /really/ need advice on this one. Never tried it

And thanks all those who've helped me so far! *beams*

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Jerry · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:09 pm

wow I wish I had palms bigger than my head.

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Enayla · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:34 pm

Cutified to show what it would usually have looked like

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Jezebel · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:34 pm

Much better Enayla!

He's definitely not snuggable now!

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Enayla · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:40 pm

Yay!

Thanks... Now to his hair... ah well...

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Jezebel · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:49 pm

Hey Enayla, I'm curious... when you do your hair is it just a soft-edged brush with a fade on it? And do you use a tablet?

The hair you do always comes out so nice

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Enayla · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:52 pm

Jezebel - you're right about the soft edged brush. I use that. And a lot of different hues, layer upon layer upon layer (though usually, I keep it in /one/ layer in photoshop. What I meant was that I brush over my colours with new colours time and time again until I get the right look)... I do not use "fade" however

. Never had any use for it. If I want to soften the edges, I make good use of my favourite tool - "smudge"...

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pierre · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 5:04 pm

Ugly? hmmm...well a chimpanze mother would probably say that her kid is the cutest thing there is

well, you may want to play around with the dozens of features that a human cranium can take shape of. The combinations pretty much never ending. The cheek and eye brow area can have a pretty big effect, though small changes. That without having the character looking like a drug addict.

Pierre

Gonad · junior member Member # Joined: 14 Jun 2000 Posts: 40

now he just kinda looks like sandra bernhardt.

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tayete · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 12:00 am

Hey, I think "it" is ugly enough...at least my feeling is I shouldn't trust on it if it was alive. The colour of the skin reminds me of evil/dead/disease/wax...

kos.mandis · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 12:34 am

Looks perfect

But seriously, considering that elfs are much more attractive that humans, that should be and ugly sob by their standards!

Jezebel · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 12:41 am

Heya Enayla,

This is a nice pic but if you're going for ugly I don't think you've quite gotten it here. You don't need to go so far as adding grotesque scars if you don't want to, but you tend to draw skin and hair very soft and beautiful. You might wanna try making his hair a little matted or dirty looking, I feel like I could just snuggle up to his head the way it is right now

And despite the fact that his skin is discolored and all-around sorta icky looking, he still has very perfect facial features. Maybe give him a lumpy nose or a slightly deformed eye. Right now I have a feeling if you were to convert all your tones to blues instead of greens, the face would be beautiful

Give that boy a reason to hide and make him hideous! Just keep at it!

-Beth

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Enayla · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 12:43 am

I don't know about perfect, but... *chuckle*... you're right, elves ARE supposed to be way better looking than that

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Enayla · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 12:45 am

Snuggle up to him? *whimpers* Awww, demmit

Well, well... I'll keep at it. But by MY standards, that is a VERY ugly face *chuckles*... as I said, I tend to draw faces VERY pretty. For me, this is... *pauses*... well, suffice to say that I had to restrain myself from just making that nose really small and cute

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Ruffiana · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 12:56 am

Symmetry is what makes a face beautiful(up to a point, then it begins to look odd) You might try forcing asymmetrical features and exageratting some of the proportions. Instead of a graceful sloping line for the bridge of the nose, try a bit straighter line, possibly a hook. Emphasis the brows, hollow the cheeks, play with the line of the jaw so it's not so well defined. Lots of things you can try. You can definitly tone down the fullness of the lips to help cut down some of the "pretty" quality about him.

Bit tricky, as you expect an Elven character (I assume it's Elven) to have an unearthly grace to him/her.

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Jaymo · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 1:48 am

Hey Enayla! You might want to try to play with asymmetrical features. That way you don't have to throw in warts, scars and other disgusting details to decrease the cutee-factor of your characters. Odd headshapes work too, like exaggerated or too small chin, cheek, forehead, whatever. Just a thought. Beautiful work, BTW! The cutified one looks like a girl...