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APOPLEX
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:13 pm     Reply with quote
moin there,

first of all, i would like to THANK everyone who reads this thread, cus' i know theres an invasion of lamers err... i mean newbies.. and theres plenty of stuff to crit. so i hope i wont waste your time with this pic! but u know: it really helps a lot to receive tips + ecetera

i felt like posting my second work i did with a digitizer - i commonly work /w usual oldskool paper 'n pens.

credits go, to be mentioned at this point, to Joe Maduriera (?) who did the original, i suppose.



the pic is supposed to show a mighty female warrior who is stepping towards the observers viewport, shes kinda influenced by egypt fashion-design

k, now to the crit/comment part:

im personally not satisfyed /w her right food, its a lil' 2 slim i guess, and the colouring job of the sword is crappy, i didnt achieve the proper metal texture. could anyone help out?
the face has a strange look to it, how do i fix it?

thx a lot

-c
APOPLEX

[This message has been edited by APOPLEX (edited December 05, 2000).]
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
Hi,
yes i think his right foot looks a little bit twisted. And the sword teture is almost identical to the one on her bra. so i thing you should change it.
Good work

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:29 pm     Reply with quote
I agree, the right foot (her left) is a bit off. but really nice skin colours...


what is it with white bras and stuff?



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:31 pm     Reply with quote
Hmm... maybe her eyes are a bit too big? And the closest foot to us looks like a clown shoe to me maybe I'm perspectivly challanged :O


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:38 pm     Reply with quote
Just some thoughts from a lamer, ummm newbie The right foot does look like it tapers out a bit to much or perhaps it becomes a little to rounded. I really like the slight glow on the edge of the hair. For the sword edge, I think it would look better if it had on long highlight/glow on the entire blade edge instead of a lot of smaller ones on both sides like it has now.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
I think you may have forgotten to give credit to someone... maybe Joe Maduriera?

By the way.. the right foot is off. Guess it is kinda hard to draw on your own with out Joe's reference. I think you have alot of nerve doing this on a message board that Liquid! visits.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:02 pm     Reply with quote
oui, c'est tres bien. J'aime le picture tu fais drawn. sorry for the crappy french but I can't say it in anglais..

Je ne parle pas a le fran�ais.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:11 pm     Reply with quote
chapel, im not sure what you mean, mind enlightening us with a link
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:13 pm     Reply with quote
http://www.joemadureira.com/cgi-bin/gallery/imageDownloads.pl?size=217&picture=http://www.joemadureira.com/images/saffire.jpg&alt=

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:15 pm     Reply with quote
oh! BUSTED! eahehaeh you dork.
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APOPLEX
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:18 pm     Reply with quote
tzekin: thx for ya crit. you are right, the right foot looks goofy, it's twisted a bit, ill fix it some time.
the sword suxx, it hasnt much metal-feeling to it - any hints for techniques?

ah, and i'll have to col the diamonds on the swords handle, but its not that important..

-c
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:19 pm     Reply with quote
Whooops... Now /that/ is what I call busted...
And it's quite embarrassing, since Joe Maduriera's original is so much better.

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APOPLEX
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:26 pm     Reply with quote
chapel: yep, its a complete redo of that work. but i just found that pic flyin around my harddrive i copied some time ago and thought about trying it myself as an appropriate lesson. sorry then, but there was no name mentioned to credit it, so sue me

-c
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:37 pm     Reply with quote
Chapel and the rest are right - you should have mentioned that in the first place instead of talking 'bout lamers - now that's putting a strange light upon you :/...

I think in the future people should be more carefully with other artists works!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:46 pm     Reply with quote
well, thats what i did not intend to do, sorry for offending anyone then. occured to be just to be the best way to learn a colouring technique, to compare the original work to your own's.

-c
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Chapel
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 3:07 pm     Reply with quote
All you had to do was give credit. But since you made references to "lamers" and such then post a pic without giving any credit.. well that leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If you knew you were copying you should have just said so, but instead you ask for critiques on something you are trying to pass off as original. Congratulations.. you are a lamer.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 4:04 pm     Reply with quote
MentalNote: Ignore posts by the lamer known as APOPLEX
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 4:22 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CapnPyro:
MentalNote: Ignore posts by the lamer known as APOPLEX


ah, that's bullshit - he probably learned the lesson!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 4:25 pm     Reply with quote
just messin with him.

his picture does show a good level of skill, even though it's completely copied, so it's difficult to tell. Any original work?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 4:35 pm     Reply with quote
What are you talking about ???

LOOK AT apoplex's FIRST POST!!!! THE one with the picture!!! look at the last line before the image, it clearly says:
Original done by Joe Madureira (?) !!!!!!

Yes, his work is really close to the original, but It seems to me that he did it
himself, I mean, he didn't just take his picture!!! And the credit is there...

Well, I must admit that copying someone else's coloring is not the best way to learn

but I don't see something really BAD here --
he GAVE A CREDIT !!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 4:39 pm     Reply with quote
Hlid, he gave credit after it was brought to his attention that he should have. You'll notice it says the message was edited earlier. Don't freak out on us now. =P

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 4:40 pm     Reply with quote
Or Did APOPLEX add the credit after the BUST??? I'm sorry I did not follow the thread from the very beginning... if so...
well.. thats... lame
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 11:36 pm     Reply with quote
Looks more Babylonian than Egyptian...hehe

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