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Shadowman
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 2:47 pm     Reply with quote
I've been doing fantasy art in oil for some time now. I also do 3d modeling, but since this is the Digital Forum I decided to make my first post a Photoshop Painting. I hope You like it and don't rip me apart to much.-Shadowman
http://www.geocities.com/rockchris3d/couplemon.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 3:29 pm     Reply with quote
Nice picture, favorite part is the girls butt, nice thong, her breast looks to hangy, make it a little firmer...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 4:23 pm     Reply with quote
Hehe I really like it... I wont rip you apart, but the sky looks more like a gradient.... should well...ok i guess it's fine.... but a little texture on the rock wouldnt help.. the vibes im getting from this picture is that the guy wants to kill the girl so he can do something to her..... hehe. doggys.. ok ill shuddup, but yes her breasts do look a little droppy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 4:41 pm     Reply with quote
I like your coloring stlye ALOT.
Two things. Her boob looks like a saggy water ballon. And her right butt cheak looks pointy

[This message has been edited by LeChuck (edited November 30, 2000).]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 6:33 pm     Reply with quote
Sorry to shatter you mental pictures, but tits hang, guys. The only way they would stay pressed to her chest was if she was wearing a bra. Or, if she had very small breasts.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 6:35 pm     Reply with quote
Yah I do realize that tits do hang....but if you look at the material she's wearing its kinda like spandex.and that should hold it there for a while...and those must be like double d cups .... (or whatever.. ) so yah..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 6:43 pm     Reply with quote
yeah, boobs hang, but that seriously looks like someone just attached a ball to her chest. tsk tsk.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 7:01 pm     Reply with quote
Man, if you want tutorials on drawing good breasts, just ask me...Ha! Drawing from nude models is the best way to learn...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 7:23 pm     Reply with quote
What the hell is this an art forum?! or an I.B. jackin' forum!?! What about a serious critique! How about it!?!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 7:41 pm     Reply with quote
is your drawing suppose to be funny cause if the guy stretched him arm down he can probably reach his feet without any problem. Is the gun suppose to be a special auto fire gun or something I don't see a trigger. The colouring job on the muscles is good. Great job over all.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2000 7:47 pm     Reply with quote
As long as someone gets a deserved amount of realistic replies, a little male imaturity is good for the soul....fuck when I'm not talking shit I'm talking shit.

I think the paintings A1, very oldschool comic style. Looks like you spend quite a bit of time with the blends.....its easy to get stuck blending with those bloody oils.
I wanto get into oils in this sort of style. Only prob is I have my Boris & Frazetta books for tips. But I just end up in frustration, cause its impossible not to look at theirs and realise how shit I am.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2000 12:59 am     Reply with quote

I'm happy to hear your replies the good and the bad. I've been out of art school for some time now and I haven't had a good critique in a while except for friends and family.
As far as the drawing I've spent lots of time analyzing the female butt so I'm glad you guys like it. I've also had a few large breasted girl friends (lucky me) and yea if there big enough they will fall to the floor.
Jerry- I never realized how long his arms are and that the gun has no triger.....OOPS
Lukias- don't feel bad Boris and Frazetta are not young guys they have been painting for a life time. If you want something ells to look at for inspiration try looking at some of the old masters stuff. Maybe the subject matter may not be what you are into but if you check out the paintings of Rembrandt and Reubens you will find that there is a lot you can learn.

Well If someone ells has something to say I would be glad to hear your coments-good or bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2000 8:06 am     Reply with quote
I didn't read those other things since im tired but here is my oppinion.
The girl weird breast and ass. The guy has a strance left arm. I like the flying monster thingy.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2000 9:29 am     Reply with quote
I agree with what the others have already pointed out, however, I would like to add another point. The entire image, the ground the characters are standing on, the characters themselves and the flying creature, all seem to appear on the same plane. I think it would be cool if there were some atmosphere seperating all the elements, so it could create a nice depth of illusion. Especially since you have established a nice stylized image, it would help to pull the image more into reality.

hope this helps

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2000 7:05 pm     Reply with quote
I think the best thing about this image is the use of reflections. It gives the work a very rounded fleshed out appearance. It appears to me the that the overall look that the artist was going for was a cartoony stylized look to the figures, so some lberties can be taken with the anatomy.
But I would like to see some more expression with that monster though!
Y'know just roll around a fling his arms around like he's attacking you! Make it look like he's really killing ya'!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2000 11:29 pm     Reply with quote
I just want to share something on image composition. By the way, I am not professional in any respect I'm just saying that in case I am about to type something stupid...

The poses for these characters resemble stained glass figures from pre-renaissance times... when figures in stained glass were always drawn very 2 dimensionally. Symmetry of the demon's wings reminded me of this.

Also, the way the man is standing really, and I mean really resembles an action figure, specifically He-Man in body proportion and pose.

Here's what I was thinking. In order to create a very nice composition, one that has depth and action in it, you need to design the set and actors in your mind. If you animate them, throw them around, simulate all sorts of things (dust flying, bodies smacking against rock, wings flapping), then you'll reach a more dynamic pose.

In my mental model, the woman has fallen down, but instead of one hand's fingers holding her up, she is leaning entirely on her lower arm.

The man may just be drawing the pistol from his holster and his torso is twisted a bit. Imagine what his free hand would be doing while his gun hand is doing that reaching. That's what I see with the left arm he has already.

Also, for composition's sake, put a reference object from where the demon might be in the background... an object that is connected to the foreground somehow.

Maybe the demon is just coming over a ledge and that ledge leads rockily up to the distressed female who has stumbled from the "whoosh" of the incoming attacker (russle some hair). Maybe the man was following right behind and is still moving forward as he is drawing the weapon.

In short, make the picture tell a story not just by pose, but by implied motion.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2000 11:31 pm     Reply with quote
Whoops, forgot to say that you did produce a very sharp image in Photoshop, as per your intentions

I got carried away with drawing the scene in my mind
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2000 12:11 am     Reply with quote
Wow thanks for your honesty!
When I did this image it was mainly to practice my photoshop technics not the drawing as much, but I know that is not a good excuse for things being out of proportion.

General Confusion- As far a atmospheric perspective I guess that is something I will have to work on.

Well thanks again for your replies. I would rather hear my shortcomings from you guys then some art director. I just want to learn and I think that I have.
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