[A]

"In the near future, the infantryman will change radically from the basically static unit he/she has been for the last century. The ubiquitous rifle will become a sophisticated multipurpous weapon capable of engaging a range of targets with explosive as well as kinetic-energy rounds. Cameras and other sensors attached to the weapon allow it to have it's own built-in intelligence, IFF (friend-foe) capability, and so on. Such weapons are already under trial in France and the US, amongst others."

Here's my second post. I just threw that in as food for thought. I'll color it soon (I drew it in my lunch hour), and post the results. I'd LOVE to see you guys color it, as I feel that would teach me HEAPS. Cheers!

[Binke]

im: STOP IT ALREADY.
GEez. stop posting your pic in everyones thread.

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[Rob M]

A- Wicked line art! Get any influence from the HK G11 by any chance? It resembles one quite a bit.

Im- Three words: Extreme Mental Retardation

[Zaph0d]

i did i quick colouring, yeah im not happy with the way the gun looks now, this is a really cool pic you did A, this is really like my second colouring job ever.

sorry if the file is big
and IM, i find myself looking through all the posts just to see how many times you can put up your pics were they dont belong
Zap

[Solitaire]

Yes, it's really looking like the G-11!



[This message has been edited by Solitaire (edited November 27, 2000).]

[burn0ut]

Nice picture A; I think you could work on the hand(s) alittle tho, try studing your own hand a few times then try it again
Yours is a bit small
On the gun, i dont think the elipises(sp?) should be seen at all at the angle he's holding it.

[A]

Thanks guys, I guess one thing that didn't come through is that the trooper is _female_, hence the small hands, small waist, and General Issue "Boots, Heel, High" (army joke for those of you in the services).

The rifle - yes, a bit like a G11, but actually a conventional (ie, brass-case based) weapon rather than the caseless style of the HK. A bit old-fashioned, I know!

Here's my lunchtime effort - a possible lighting scheme for the pic...

Cheers, A.

[asmodie]

Have someone in this forum fired some sort of AK? *wondering*

Coz the man in the pic is goining to fall back...it looks wrong to me...the elbow should be on his knee, leening forward insted of backward and the foot moved forward. It is easyier to shoot that way.

Don't take it wrong, I like you lineart but I don't like how ppl draw the usage of weapons...coz the realting looks cooler.

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[Solitaire]

Oh, yes I can see the base of her breasts - I didn't realized that before, ups. Better look next time .

As for positioning while firing; well it's hard to imagine if you haven't fired any yet
I always do such things intentional, as I
was on civil service, not to the army - so I never fired a gun.......and that's not that bad
But ASMODI is right - the recoil would knock her over and precise aiming (which is indicated in your pic) is hardly possible.

Er...and she has a very hairy arm

[Matt Elder]

I like the cleaness of the image and the line art. Couple of problems with it though. The postion of the back foot is up too high. Also the way the back leg sits under the thigh isn't quite right. It looks as though it has been broken off and pushed into the page and it does look really painful.

Your style is quite nice but I'd suggest on the inside of the character to have some of the lines a bit thicker in places. Most of them seem a little flat with no deep and consequently no real variation in line type.

One thing that I always finds helps and image immensely is to ground the figure and draw a shadow. Takes only a few moments to do but can really help the image out. You might also want to consider in future posting images with backgrounds if you want them coloured. People here can work magic with colouring and if you give them a background, they can really making the character part of the scene.

Still a fine image and it will be interesting to see what others will be able to do with it colouring wise.

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Matt
http://www.mattelder.com

[fazedesign]

Ok, this is my FIRST EVER attempt at coloring an image, this post got me started and I worked at this for just over an hour, experimenting and such, im gonna work on my technique, but i think i'll start coloring more often



Tell me what ya think. I love Criticism

[fazedesign]

Also I had no idea how people normally went about doing colouring jobs on line drawings, so that colour job is done COMPLETELY with Hard Light layers hehe

[A]

About the positioning of the figure: it was a carefully deliberated decision to lean the figure back. This is based on
a) my experience firing M-16 assault rifles, which have almost no recoil due to their small caliber and straight-line stock, and can be VERY effectively fired in a "lean back" posture, and
b) my observations of small people handling heavier weapons, when the center of gravity seems to be in the weapon more than the firer! Thus the same posture. This weapon, with its integral grenade launcher, is meant to look heavy. Maybe I failed in that.

Thanks for your comments though.
Cheers, A.

[im]

to fazedesign

i love the colors ...

[A]

Here's the color version of the image. It's only a quick image, so I figure it doesn't deserve too much time for the colors....

Thanks for the crits guys, I didn't change the linework in the end (although it's tempting to sort out her feet better).

Faze, Zap; Keep it up. There's so much talent here that we're all learning flat out. Thanks for your contribution, I had no idea people would actually take me up on the
offer of coloring the images!
The whole experience is a huge inspiration to create better work, yeah?

Anyway, here's my attempt. IYO, any good?

Cheers, A.

[asmodie]

What kind of experience do you have whith the M16?
I'v enden my military service here in Sweden, about 6 month ago. I have used the AK5(The Swedish version) witch is similar to the M16 for 10 month.
So here is some lessons how to hit you target while standing on the knees:

1. First of all, like everything else you need a big area to divied you weight on. That way you will stay stabel. To get the maximum area you have to move the foot forward and the leg should have a 90 degree between them.

2. If you have your arm in the air, your arm will shake like a leaf. And it will be inpossible to hit the target. How to you fix that? By puting you elbow on your knee.

Try these to tips and you will hitt your target

And about the coil, every weapen thats not backfire-weapon...bazook-like(I'v shot those too) have recoil. And even if it is smal like you say, it have the power to knock a person down i that possition.

Have you tried to fire a Handgun? Thats recoil

Don't take this personal...almost everbody in this forum think guns are toys. And uses dem likte toys...(a movie thing probably).

*don't take me to seriously*

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[A]

My experience with the m-16 is, I guess, fairly limited. I have much more experience (5 years' military service, part of that instructing others) with the heavier 7.62mm SLR (FN semi-auto rifle, called Self Loading Rifle in Australian service) and the m-60 General Purpose Machine Gun. I always seemed to get stuck with that damn thing, it weighs about 12 klios with a 100-round belt of ammo!

You're right about the foot and knee thing, her knee should be sticking out much more to her left rather than straight ahead. As for the elbow, the posture I as talking about you actually brace it against your hip, or, I now remember, on top of your left-hand ammo pouch (which the illustrated figure does not have)...and generally support the M-16 lightly at the magazine. Fitting a carry sling to the weapon and looping it around the left arm is another good way to help brace the firer, but something I also didn't add to this pic.

Anyway, I'm rambling, and it's not really relevant to digital art. I guess the only relevant thing is that my picture is so obviously a failure if you think I consider guns to be toys.....