[Chapel]

A company you have always wanted to work for offered you the job you wanted, but you have to take a big pay cut and move to the other side of the country? The cost of living is also higher at the new location.

[faustgfx]

diss the offer. the company should come to you, not the other way around.



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[Spitfire]

What the fin said.



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finn.



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[Spitfire]

Who said i was talking about your nationality?



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[Chapel]

Let me just add it would be a complete career change. So my current career pays more than the one I want to pursue. I want to go into this other career, because I'll enjoy it more. The pay cut really isn't from them not wanting to give me money its that I come from a place where they pay extremely well.

[This message has been edited by Chapel (edited January 15, 2001).]

[Bradford]

i would go for it. if it is something you really enjoy do it. your going to have to start lower than you did before, but you can gradually work your way up.

my opinion. sometimes enjoyment is more important than how much you get paid. so long as you are comfortable financially.

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[Bugscratch]

Yeah if the money is enough and there are possibilities of getting into higher positons later that pay better I would definitely go for it, otherwise you'll find yourself regretting it later when you're stuck at a less interesting job.

-bugscratch

[Speve-o-matic]

Why so vague Chapel? Can't we get some names and locations in there, or is this just a hypothetical question?

- Steve

[Chapel]

Well the job hasn't really been offered to me, because they feel I am qualified for better work in my own industry. It is a comic book company though. There is a hint.

[Enayla]

I say go for it, Chapel. Money isn't that important. And if it is something you /really/ want to do, it might be worth having to move

But what do I know, I'd never move out of the place where I live (comes from buying an expensive apartment)... just that if you don't have /that/ much to tie you down where you live, it is probably worth it.

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[elam]

Do it. This is what you really want to do, I assume. How could you pass it up?



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[Chapel]

Around a 10k difference. Plus, if I wait I may get an opportunity else where... but then again I might not.

[This message has been edited by Chapel (edited January 15, 2001).]

[CapnPyro]

which coast do you live on now? And what is it you do now? I think so long as you make a comfortable living it's worth it to be doing what you want. Completely changing your geography is difficult tho =

[somber]

Go for it. If you don't like it there, you can leverage your position to get a job somewhere else. It's always easier to get a job when you already have one.

[DirtyDigger]

Well well,
Something I've sorta been through.

I take it your moving from Florida as your profile states to lovely Californ-eye-A

My first move was from upstate New York where I was doing some programming for a company. I really liked the job. It was interesting the people were great and I was building something for a large company that would be used on their worldwide intranet.

I had a company pursue me for 6 months from California. I did some contract stuff for them and they chased me pretty good after that. After negotiating an offer (note I owned a house in New York). That decision was fairly easy as I turned out to be a fairly good negotiator and the pay was a huge increase, plus I'd get to work on things using my own creativity and pretty much head up my own stuff. So I packed my stuff in two weeks, put in notice at my present job, and left my wife in kids in New York while I set up shop in California. I moved them out there later.

Six months into the job the company folded due to bad decisions by the board and several major stockholders. So I founded a new company with the CEO of that company and the director of marketing.

A few months after that I get a call from a company I had fantasized working with as a kid...Electronic Arts. Now you have to realize I grew up during their start-up 'hey day'. when computers were new and most games were lacking and all of their games just totally kicked ass. I went and visited old Electronic Arts which is now nothing like I mentally had in my head (due to the fact I always remembered them as small). Their people work in little cubicles in big corporate buildings plus offer was nowhere near what I was making. I didn't have to move or anything like that, I was local. But I stuck with my own company because I really liked what I was doing and believed in it.

Your happiness in the end is what's most important. Being miserable at a job you don't like is the worst. EA, even though I love the company just wasn't what I wanted and didn't look fun.

I hope maybe this little story will help you think about things (maybe not, I ramble a lot). If you're single I don't really even know why you are thinking about this (take the damn job, you only live once)...if you are married, that's a different story because your spouse may have a say in what you do in the end. Check on cost of living and the like (a 3 bedroom apartment in silicon valley is about $2k a month now minimum, so check the area your looking at moving to).

As far as $10k a year when you divide it down that is a little over $200 a week befoe taxes (and depending on your tax's should actually be about a loss at the least of $140 a week), to me personally I would give $140 bucks a week (just $20 bucks a day for 7 days) to be doing something I like at my job than not having my heart in the job i'm doing...

but I digress.... (Damn I can sure talk can't I heheh)


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[Cooter]

Take it from someone who didn't make the move, got stuck in a shite job that he hates, and is still stuck in (completely, totally, utterly depressed as well I might add)

Things like this are hard because you can actually see the two different paths that you're life can take, rather than the "fate" monster jumping up and biting you in the ass every once in a while. The money and the moving part should play no part in the decision(take that from my fukked up experience) go where you are happy and do what you want to do. WOW-shite almost convinced myself to quit my job thinkin' like that! Mayhaps I need to do some more soul searchin...

[Flinthawk]

Hmmm, if it's working for a company you've wanted to work for and you think it'll create more opportunities at that company or in other companies then go for it. There's also the single or married situation but that's to be dealt with on a case to case business...it'd all depend on how your woman feels about moving out there and how grounded she is to her current area, etc, etc.

If you're single then go for it man because unless you've got multiple companies from the industry you want to work in knocking down your door you've got to take what you can, keep your head down and your nose clean and know that you're in!

I'm assuming comics work a bit like the games industry where the hardest part is breaking onto the scene...after you do that it's all up to you where you go from there. You wanna get big, keep working hard...happy with where you're at, do what you have to to keep your job. Even if things go sour, company go belly-up or major layoffs happen, you can tell other companies that you've got industry experience so unless you just suck (I've seen your stuff, it doesn't suck), you can be safe knowing that getting into that industry won't screw you over.

I was making about $8000 more before I went to school than what I'm making now but I just got into the industry and I know I can go up as high as my efforts take me so in the long run I have the potential to make much more money than before doing what I love best. I think many others have found this to be true. I know there're guys working with me that can make $$$ working for some corporation but they don't because they like it here too much. Yeah, money means a lot, I know I can't get enough of it, the evil shit, but it still won't buy happiness.

Let us know how things turn out. Good luck!

-Flinthawk

[Chapel]

Thanks for the opinions folks! I've decided not to try though. I'm going to stick out just a little longer here. I have several more opportunities coming up. I've been noticed for what little work I have done, so once I get my portfolio finished I'm going to try some other places. So.. I guess the "storm" has passed for now.

[CapnPyro]

what studio was it

[Chapel]

I dropped hints.

[somber]

Wildstorm?

[egerie]

And at the moment you are doing..?

[Lukias]

Do you have a gut feeling?.

Trust your intuition....go on your instinct.

Draw a table of the negative aspects and the positive aspects of each location/job etc.

blah blah

[Chapel]

I'm not going. In fact I may not go into coloring at all. I'm having trouble keeping motivated and I've only been at it a few months. I may be a little burned out from all the coloring I've done, but I'm going to focus more on my drawing now.