Sijun Forums :: View topic

Leo · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 4:59 am

Walking around the forum i found thread by Phire2. He asked Craig or someone else to paint Trinity from Matrix using photo as reference. Here is my try...

Phire2 asked for the tips too ...mmm here is da cite:
I'd like to draw a persons face but I just cannot get the concept down in my head on how to start or where to begin. Since real life has no lines I just don't know what to do really..
I planned to make a step-by-step image, but as too often i dislike the first steps cuz they are very crappy to publish. Anyway here is my tips:
first, forgot 'bout comic and other coloring styles. Yes, there is no lines in real life. I started from simple sketch just for checking proportions, placement etc. define basic shapes... this is a quick step. Next i start to paint|render areas and looked at photo from time to time. Values are the key. I work from dark parts to medium. And adds highlights later. Remember, drawing real human heads or full body is a hard subject. I always dislike it tough. But hey doing is a best way to start draw faces.
Sorry guys for brief explain, i'm no Craig or someone else - there are a lot of talented and skillful dudez with BETTER english ;-)

Later,

YourMum · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 5:22 am

Nice picture, Leo!

I like it. Nice shades and colors. I think that her hands look a bit like man's hands. You could draw them daintier.

You got very nice feeling.

-Juha-

Anthony J · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 6:25 am

Leo great job man!
you really captured the feel
the only thing i would comment on
is, i dunno if the reference photo had it or not, but it would be total bad ass if you
have Trinity's eyes focused directly on the viewer...like directly towards the centre point or whatever...cause that would just add alot of feel to it...

everybody who's seen Matrix knows what part comes next!

wicked job

------------------
---------------
Digital Painting Gallery
http://anthonys.8m.com

"you must feel the force in order to use it Obi-Wan..."

]|V|[ERLIN · member Member # Joined: 05 Nov 2000 Posts: 56

wow amazin' i really like it!

------------------
"I will show you where to stick your magic wand!"

PhreaX · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 6:47 am

Wow...I think you got the eyes really good. I noticed in the ref. that she's looking a bit to the upper left corner. That's the kinda stuff that I usually forget when I am struggling with expressions...GREAT JOB!!!

Dives · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 7:12 am

you seem to have the same problem that i have your women look like men

I want help with that

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

not like men but rather KGB women

Sergenth · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 1:42 pm

This is a primo pic Leo. The lighting is so good that I was looking for cues that might have shown it was traced... then I didn't find any.

I really like it! Painter creates such a different picture from Phtoshop. Really, really nice.

It looks like an eviler version of Trinity... that's neat too.

I don't know what it is, but her right hand holding the phone seems to be a bit too much like plastic. And it seems a bit wierd where her hand meets the wrist -- there is a really bright highlight line there. It doesn't match the nice face.

Liquid! · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:13 pm

That piece is really nicely done! Great work!

-c

Justin Kramer · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:17 pm

Nice work, Leo! Nice feeling to it. A couple things that I noticed:

1) The nose looks a little bent to our right.

2) The hand holding the phone looks like a different color than her face and other hand. Looks like a flesh-colored glove or something.

I like the texture a lot. I gotta get me a copy of Painter...

------------------
portfolio

macho2k · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:20 pm

Im impressed of your shadings & shadows, it looks realistic to me. I wish i could draw like this, but i can only draw some COMIC character,, at the moment I try to learn how to draw famous comics like Winnieh The Poh, Uncle Scrooge and Our Swedish Comic, BAMSE

grrrreatt artworx, keep up the good work....
have a good time..
//micke

macho2k · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:20 pm

Im impressed of your shadings & shadows, it looks realistic to me. I wish i could draw like this, but i can only draw some COMIC character,, at the moment I try to learn how to draw famous comics like Winnieh The Poh, Uncle Scrooge and Our Swedish Comic, BAMSE

grrrreatt artworx, keep up the good work....
have a good time..
//micke

Shadowman · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:29 pm

Cool Man! I love the feelin of the loose brush stroks.
I think the nose might be to big for a girl to have, but who am I to judge.

Shadowman · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:30 pm

Cool Man! I love the feelin of the loose brush stroks.
I think the nose might be to big for a girl to have, but who am I to judge.

g:tech · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:49 pm

Looks great. Nice work!!

------------

Jenn · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 3:56 pm

Awsome

------------------
DarkChyld

Leo · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 6:26 pm

Thank ya all!
In this pic Trinity in trouble escaping from the agents so she dosen't look like marvellous woman at party. If you look at real woman you may noticed that they looks a bit different than those mag cover's girls. Okei argeed with right hand - in original it seems more thin. Pic isn't traced or overpainted i just drop photo reference onto desktop. Yes, colors are vary - the mistakes of young artists is that they just fill human body with 'flesh' color... hmm i saw nice article somewhere at www.elfwood.com related to oilpainting tough but it've some great advices for drawing REAL humans.
Were was a discussion 'bout Painter vs PhotoShop. I use both but seems like Painter have better color picker or wheel (well not better - you just choose colors faster):

also one of the strongest side is a brush controls and colors blending. First time i was very dissapointed by painter (slo-mo monster with hard-to-understand tools etc.) but later i've started to use it more and more. The great painter inspirational sources is art by Jason Manley, Shane Caudle's images (uh Shane, finish your queen Amidala someday

thanks for your time.

cheers,
leo

edible snowman · member Member # Joined: 12 Sep 2000 Posts: 998

is it just me or does her right arm look a little stubby?

Shane Caudle · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 8:40 pm

Dude, I think it Rocks!!!
Nice Job!

------------------
Shane Caudle
Art Director/Level Designer/3D Dude
For Epic Games on Unreal and Unreal Tournament
[email protected]
http://www.planetshane.com

shardik · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 12:03 am

WHOA, im watching matrix right now and that part of the movie popped up right when this message did... Coincidence? I think not... The truth is out there

shardik · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 12:04 am

WHOA, im watching matrix right now and that part of the movie popped up right when this message did... Coincidence? I think not... The truth is out there

shardik · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 12:04 am

WHOA, im watching matrix right now and that part of the movie popped up right when this message did... Coincidence? I think not... The truth is out there

shardik · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 12:05 am

WHOA, im watching matrix right now and that part of the movie popped up right when this message did... Coincidence? I think not... The truth is out there

Fearfaction · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 12:06 am

it looks cool but i think it looks more like Neo than trinity

Seph|roth · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 12:22 am

Hey, its looking really good !
The only thing that kinda bothers me is her nose, it doesn't seem right..
Maybe its just me though

------------------
- Seph -
Listen Without Prejudice

galen · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 9:04 am

that's really cool

btw, anyone know where i can download a demo or something similar of painter??? i've been looking around...cant find anything...

------------------
or you can dream of the frog legs sitting in the church, with the glass and the sand by my footsteps

tanis · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 1:43 pm

Wow! Cool picture! The eyes are the best part of the whole picture! Draw some more of those!

Muzman · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 3:27 pm

Farken marvellous. I do think you could soften the nostrils a bit (but I know, C-A. M.'s nose is pretty hard looking compared to most.) The rest has that elusive "I'd swear this was about to move" feel.
Applause from me.