[Shadowman]

My question is does anyone here paint traditionally oil, acrylic, mixed media exc... Even though I like to make digital artwork painting in photoshop, 3D modeling, Illustrator vector drawing. I still feel that artist should not give up their traditional skills. What do you think?
If you know of a good forum for oil painters please tell me.

[Codexier]

I paint with oils and have used acrylics in the past. I'm not great, so I am using digital (Wacom + Painter) to practice composition, lighting, staging, etc. It's much cheaper than wasting paints and canvas.

I'd really love to know about any oil painting forums as well.

[marc_taro]

I paint with acrylics - but the computer is taking over fast. I pretty much only do traditional for personal workf. But even at home I'm using the PC more. I'm hooked on speed and flexibility. And photoshop is pretty much exactly like acrylics anyway.

If you find a good traditional forum, please post it for us!

[YourMum]

Yeah... I haven't WACOM or any tablet so I haven't paint on computer lately. Mouse drawing is not fun.

I love to paint traditionally but yes, that's quite expensive medium to mess with. Oils are great. I just have thought to buy WACOM. Dunno.

Traditional painting is fun and I would love to do it more.

-Juha-

[bloodsugar]

I do, once in a while when I have the time. Digital artwork is cool but nothing beats the sensuality of layering real materials, real textures... or maybe I have something for oil fumes. :P

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[Spectra]

I practice a lot traditional oil and pen/pencil draw.
Don't think that because you draw on a computer that it change everything, your standard ability at drawing, sketching and shading is still the same. Traditional art is still a valuable way to improve your skill.

-Spectra

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You learn and get better at each draw you do. So persevere and one day you will draw like dhabih.

[Solitaire]

Well I draw the most, but also did oils and acrylics. I like to model not only plastic model kits; I love to build costumes and stuff.
I'm quite new to digital arts.

[micke]

I would if i had a extra room in my flat
were i could freak out. That's the only reason i don't paint with oils. I mostly draw.


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[General Confusion]

I love painting traditionally, since there is no mess to clean up. No wait a minute that's wrong

I did paint traditionally, until the expected medium at work became digital, now I've crossed over to the darkside. However, in my spare time, I like to maintain the skills, I usually use acrylics, and I never liked oils.

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[balistic]

Real artists paint with vegetable pigment on rocks, none of that new age oily shit.

Note how ridiculous that sounds Miconius.

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"What we're hearing, techno, is the process of trying to create something of the future." - J.M.

Brian "balistic" Prince
3D Artist
Eggington Productions
www.bprince.com

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[A.Buttle]

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about Miconius. Sure, acrylics may not be as old school as, say, oil paints, but that doesn't make them non-traditional. Paints + brush + canvas = Traditional.

Besides, Kraft Mac Aand Cheese is damned fine eatin'....

[edit]And a HUGE word up to balistic...[/edit]

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Joe Dillingham

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[Miconius]

Let's get one thing nice and sparking clear!!!
When I speak of traditional painting,
Oil paint is not the only traditional medium out there! Just take a look at balistic's fine idea of grinding vegetable's on rock's. I think you've got something there!!! Please let me know how that works out for you!!!
As for the wonderful world of Acrilic paints!
Well, if you enjoy painting with the equivalent Elmer's glue and pigment, then serve up that kraft dinner with some Lipton noodle soup!!

[Miconius]

Let's get one thing nice and sparking clear!!!
When I speak of traditional painting,
Oil paint is not the only traditional medium out there! Just take a look at balistic's fine idea of grinding vegetable's on rock's. I think you've got something there!!! Please let me know how that works out for you!!!
As for the wonderful world of Acrilic paints!
Well, if you enjoy painting with the equivalent of Elmer's glue and pigment, then serve up that kraft dinner with some Lipton noodle soup!!

[CapnPyro]

^ too all potential mothers, this is what happens when you smoke crack while your pregnant. Drugs are bad, mmkay?

[Tinusch]

Who invited Miconius

[Miconius]

Hey GC, working in acrylics is just about as traditional to the art of painting as eating Kraft Macaroni & Cheese is to fine Italian Cuisine.
....Get out you plastic forks Boys and Girls....
....Diner will be ready in a minute!!

[Shadowman]

Well I would like to thank all of you for there honesty, but please don't turn my little discussion into something that it is not.
The reason I posted this question is that I've been so consumed with computer drawing, painting and 3D modeling for the last 3 years that sometimes I miss traditional painting the original reason I got into this whole thing in the first place.
I was just wondering if anyone eles felt the same way. Do you miss it or do you feel better off? Is traditional painting just for the select few people who dare not to conform?

[balistic]

The rise of digital art can be attributed to one word:

"undo"



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"What we're hearing, techno, is the process of trying to create something of the future." - J.M.

Brian "balistic" Prince
3D Artist
Eggington Productions
www.bprince.com

[General Confusion]

two words Balsitic

"multiple undo"

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[egerie]

I used to do do a LOT of paint. Acrylic paint, a little bit of oil, gouache, latex, water color, mixed media, whatever. All of that on canvas or anything flat.... or not

Unfortunately, I live in a rather small appartment with clean nice carpet everywhere. That's why I miss the industrial facilities of college... I want a ��@��" loft to get down and dirty again !!

Um.. that didn't sound right
Anyway, I keep fighting my wacom pen and try to transpose that in the digital realm but darn it it's hard !!

edit: I forgot ! Yes undo and multiple undo is great. Did it ever occured to anyone to think "ctrl-z" when you'd be sketching on a paper pad ? Freaky. Computers fry your brain they said.

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[Blakk]

Yo! I love to air brush, but this digital thing is the bomb! Ya know what I'm sayin brother!!

[Nightime]

quote:

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Originally posted by egerie:
edit: I forgot ! Yes undo and multiple undo is great. Did it ever occured to anyone to think "ctrl-z" when you'd be sketching on a paper pad ? Freaky. Computers fry your brain they said.
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LOL and I thought i was the only one! When I'm sketching or painting and goof up, I instinctively reach over for an imaginary keyboard and an undo button... aack

JJ

[Shadowman]

I know what you mean about the mess egerie.
When I was in school I could make as much mess as I needed to. Now I just use a lot of newspaper on the floor when I paint.

[garuda_x]

yeah. if you cant draw on paper, you probably cant draw on a wacom...... your still drawing.....still need to understand proportioon and stitch like that........ i love to paint and draw and sculpt....its just so damn fun. and you get to get dirty. and i like dirty..... (although i'm not as messy as used to be.....) i love it all. ars longa, vita brevis..... _x

[Bugscratch]

I still do traditional painting, though I do that mostly for school. Wehn I paint on canvas, I usually use acrylics, but recently I'm toying with the idea of doing an oil painting, since I want to try what painting was like for the real masters....
For my private stuff I do almost exclusively sketch in pencil, since I'm currently working on improving my life drawing skills. I already fear though that the computer might take over soon.

-bugscratch

[SPike.CoM]

I dunno what you guys call this... but when I "undo" a thing while painting acrilics I paint o-v-e-r the old layer.

Aha? Digital isn't all that... Heheh.

I am also confident with pencil sketching and the undo there is called: E-R-A-S-E. >

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[Aiko Ito]

I still paint and draw traditionally. I'm trying to get into digital painting but, but I think I'll get tetonitis before I figure it out. Maybe if I had a wacom I'd be more willing to take the time.
As for the difference between oil and acrylic, I think i prefer oil, becuase you have more time to play with the colors before they dry. But Acrylic is great for filling in backgrounds on big canvasas, much cheaper.

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[SPike.CoM]

Actually... that depends... Large quantities of acryllic color can stay un-dry for 10 minutes. After that you need to wet it down with water to keep it from drying. And when you want to save paint, you can always put it in those small cylinders you get to keep photorolls in. They can up to one week be stored before they dry out.

[random]

I've tried oils, acryls, tempera and that kind of stuff in school but what I really liked was oil-painting.. but I'm using those only in school.. because I don't want to use so much money for that and..ctrl-z is my god..

[Duckman2]

Oh yeah and trust me there is absolutely nothing wrong with erasing do you think Leonardo or John Singer Sargent never erased? If you don't like what your drawing then why should you have to keep on drawing without fixing what you don't like about it?