[Freddio]

Dear Sijun forum...

Do any of you use photos (Polaroids) for comercial work? Dhabih? I mean Photos dont really improve your skills... maby copying skill... but when you trace them you learn nothing. But the result is great and you dont need to put any effort in.... I may try a few photo copies just to see how they turn out... I mean should you put that sort of work in your POrtfolio?

well I guess Boris does... he does all his work from tracing photos...


but I was just wondering if any of you guys do the same for your freelance professional stuff...


I mean a can copy a reference pretty well....

but some days with no reference I just completely forget how to draw... I can't do anything that look really realistic... I can make things look decent... buit it is so much easier to paint with a reference...

how du get really good at painting from your mind... I mean I can do alright stuff straight out my head but I usually use a mirror or paint my hands and stuff like that....


I guess its all just practise and experience...

I can't really expect to become and instant artist over nite...


anyway im off too bed...

Good night...

or good morning


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[Rag]

Freddio,
Not sure if you are reading the thread titled "very sweet" but the whole thing has turned into a debate about using photos for reference, take a look. It's in my personal opinion that photos are extremely handy to use, especially when you have my memory. But it can hurt your skill as an artist. The best way to learn to draw and paint is too carry a sketchbook with you when you can and draw alot. Making notes about light, color, etc on the sketch. And by the way, learning to create digitally is not the way you, me, or anyone is going to learn to SEE! Seeing is the purest essence of art and to truly see is what it takes to become a great artist. Grab yourself some oils, Grumbacher makes an oil now that wash with soap and water. And just starting painting your ass off. Once you have it down, the photos will just become extra storage space when your brain lets you down. Good luck and hope to see your work often.

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[chlywly]

I would have to disagree with you on that one. Photographs do improve your skill when used as a reference. Name one artist let's say painter who hasnt either used life or a photo to draw sketches and paint from? I don't think you can. Atleast you can't if they are doing anything semi-realistic. Photos help you understand proportion in many cases. Your brain is good but not all the best at capturing picture perfect images of things that you see once. When I go somewhere I always carry around my photo-camera where ever I go =) Anyways I feel like telling you something.

[This message has been edited by chlywly (edited November 04, 2000).]

[Freddio]

Thanks for your feedback guys...

any other professionals like to tell us how much they use photos?

du Clients give you photos to copy?

Freddio....